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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Rich H on March 26, 2017, 10:21:10 PM
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Progress so far:
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(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/Mobile%20Uploads/20170326_183001_zpsqoqwefzu.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/richardhumble/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170326_183001_zpsqoqwefzu.jpg.html)
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(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/Mobile%20Uploads/20170326_183017_zpsgadk88t0.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/richardhumble/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170326_183017_zpsgadk88t0.jpg.html)
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Gonna need a bigger war-games table :o
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That looks like a godawful amount of detailing required. I'll check back in a year once you've finished the engine room. :D
I've seen on in 1/35th, but none in a suitable 28mm scale, nor with an interior. I suppose this is for tournament play? "Bang, oh, sorry mate, but there goes 750 points of infantry. Your turn to shoot". ;)
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Externally its pretty boring. The interior it also going to be pretty plain. Thinking bunker or battleship.
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Good grief. I knew it was big, but that Churchill parked on it certainly puts things in perspective! 8) 8) 8)
I have to ask: what sort of storage do you have, a warehouse? :D
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I've not really thoughts about that - ignoring it for now lol
Need to sell some of my other crap...
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Forget the Churchill, it's the scaling effect of the washing machine that boggles the mind. Ask your missus if she really needs a tumble dryer. :)
You realise that you have now officially slid into lunacy and you are well on the way to building a 1/56 Gneisenau? Hopefully you have an Olympic sized swimming pool.
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Gonna need a bigger war-games table :o
That is the new wargames table.
So will you running games inside it?
(Edited - I hate autocorrect)
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Forget the Churchill, it's the scaling effect of the washing machine that boggles the mind. Ask your missus if she really needs a tumble dryer. :)
Good grief, I hadn't noticed that! Gulp!
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Yep that ruler at the front is 24"
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Oh and Ive got a 1/48 scale viii uboat of that helps?
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Oh and Ive got a 1/48 scale viii uboat of that helps?
Blimey....
Does that fit in the bath tub?
Seriously, you should open a small museum and get people to pay to see your stuff! I would.
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Oh and Ive got a 1/48 scale viii uboat of that helps?
But I bet you are now thinking, "hmmm, model of the Gneisenau, that is a good idea".
So how are you going to distribute the secondary armament?
Once finished you will need to find a 40K player with a Baneblade for a comparison shot.
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A beautifully barmy project :-*- how about a couple of PzIII munitionschleppers to go with it (I'm sure they could carry a couple of 11" shells apiece - & a line of supply trucks, mechanics & general gawpers).
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Secondary armament will be a 128mm in a flexible mount in the turret, 2x MG-15s in the front glacis plate and 2 quad 20mm flak turrets on the rear deck.
I've a pic of the Churchill in the engine bay I'll find that.
PzIII munitionspanzers would be good, there is hangerage for a couple of BMW bikes in the rear too. About 75 SDKFZ-9s to tow it perhaps?
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That's pretty impressive Rich! :o I've no idea what a Ratte is, but I'm sure you'll do a sterling job of it!
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That's pretty impressive Rich! :o I've no idea what a Ratte is, but I'm sure you'll do a sterling job of it!
Believe it or not it was apparently a genuine concept being worked up by Krupp before Speer cancelled it. I think it was from the same development programme that the Maus prototype originated from.
I'll be interested to see the finished model, you've gotten further than the real one already!
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That's pretty impressive Rich! :o I've no idea what a Ratte is, but I'm sure you'll do a sterling job of it!
It is what the designer of the Baneblade would point and laugh at...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1000_Ratte (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1000_Ratte)
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Believe it or not it was apparently a genuine concept being worked up by Krupp before Speer cancelled it. I think it was from the same development programme that the Maus prototype originated from.
I'll be interested to see the finished model, you've gotten further than the real one already!
I get the impression it was a design concept and not a very serious one either. Some of the wooden models are a bit.... surreal? Like one had twin 88s in turrets in each corner that blocked the main turret every 45 degrees. They look like something that the marketing dept would come up with if left unchecked by the engineering dept... lol
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That is the new wargames table.
So will you running games inside it?
Well you could play a game of Pulp Alley on it.
I imagine the sense of achievement is the payoff for a project like this, along with the look on the face of whoever you suggest should knock a couple out in resin.
:D
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Not my plan - it was Jeff's plan! I'm blaming him! And he's the resin master not me! ;)
I just got bored one day and had a pile of 2 mm mdf and a laser cutter...
There isn't a huge amount of space but I've tried to make all the spaces workable for 28 mm figs.
30+mm of headroom where I can. The upper forward deck is a bit tight to each side of the turret ring.
The only space that's too small is under the forward deck with the driveshafts under the lowest turret floor that is 25mm.
The wheels will be the biggest pain, mostl because they are going to be very tedious!
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I've been curious about this since Rich first mentioned the idea a while back but it doesn't get any less barking -- here's conclusive proof of its Maus lineage ;)
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I get the impression it was a design concept and not a very serious one either. Some of the wooden models are a bit.... surreal? Like one had twin 88s in turrets in each corner that blocked the main turret every 45 degrees. They look like something that the marketing dept would come up with if left unchecked by the engineering dept... lol
I'm sure I read somewhere that Hitler gave it the Ratte nickname and that he was fairly interested. There was certainly some thought put into it by Krupp, there was even an allowance for its own toilet? :D It seems mostly to have been considered entirely impractical by everyone else.
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Like architects left unchecked engineers can be prone to flights of fancy. Hitler seemed to love massive stupid stuff!
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Impressive!
I just got bored one day and had a pile of 2 mm mdf and a laser cutter...
Hahaha, if only I could harness that boredom of yours and direct it...
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I'm easily swayed... ;D
And flit between projects all the time :P
What did you have in mind :D
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There isn't a huge amount of space but I've tried to make all the spaces workable for 28 mm figs.
You mean it doubles as an army carry case? lol
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You mean it doubles as an army carry case? lol
Looks like it would double as a steamer trunk or a packing crate. Ahhhhhhhhhh thrifty fellow, I see the plan now!
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nice project but I am not so sure if it would fit on the roads of my gaming terrain ;)
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I doubt many bridges in the real world would cope either, not that it needed them for most waterway crossings.
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I doubt many bridges in the real world would cope either, not that it needed them for most waterway crossings.
Finding a parking spot? Filling up? The army of rollers, graders and navvies to fix the roads after it passed. It's a real pity the nazis never followed through on this.
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I doubt many bridges in the real world would cope either, not that it needed them for most waterway crossings.
"Bridges? We don't need ze stinkin' bridges!" ;)
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"Bridges? We don't need ze stinkin' bridges!" ;)
Of course not, not when you have vorsprung durch technik. I know, I've seen the ads. :D
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I may be playing to stereotypes here, but it says a lot that for the nation that produced a multi-lane road system that was the envy of the world in its day and also the vehicle capable of hogging them all at the same time.
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I may be playing to stereotypes here, but it says a lot that for the nation that produced a multi-lane road system that was the envy of the world in its day and also the vehicle capable of hogging them all at the same time.
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See, nowadays it only takes a single BMW or Audi to do so. Talk about efficiency!
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lol
It would do as an army case... except it'll be full of stuff! Eventually... one day... if I don't accidentally start any more projects.
Accidentally bought a STuG IIIG this morning because Warlord gave me a voucher.... It'll get concrete armour and logs for my Finns. No they don't need it.
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Believe it or not it was apparently a genuine concept being worked up by Krupp before Speer cancelled it. I think it was from the same development programme that the Maus prototype originated from.
I'll be interested to see the finished model, you've gotten further than the real one already!
Ratte was only one step to the end called "Monster". Here is the german Wikipedia-Entry https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landschlachtschiff
But not in 28mm, this is made for 6mm-Gamers. But they never made more than planing.
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Got to love the odd 'accidental' purchase, just picked up their new Comet for the same reason.
I assume you'll be shipping the Ratte off to DW unpainted, but if you were going to, would you go with a battleship grey or camo it (though the concept of camo on what looks like a fallen office building is pretty funny)?
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Got to love the odd 'accidental' purchase, just picked up their new Comet for the same reason.
I assume you'll be shipping the Ratte off to DW unpainted, but if you were going to, would you go with a battleship grey or camo it (though the concept of camo on what looks like a fallen office building is pretty funny)?
You could paint windows on it so it could hide as a building.
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I guess grey but camo would make sense as a huge strategic bomber target.
Hitting a single city block from a few tens of thousands of feet is going to be hard.
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An excellent piece to have a commando raid on. I think we have CAD of one in 1/285 and it's the same size as a 1/35 tank model.
Brilliant way to assemble this. I bet if you create a laser cut card or wood kit, people would buy it. It could be similar to what Reviresco does with it's large steam trawler kits. Cardstock or fiberboard main pieces, with resin and metal detail parts.
Looking forward to the interior....
-Brent
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It's awaiting more time... maybe more next week.
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But I bet you are now thinking, "hmmm, model of the Gneisenau, that is a good idea".
You can't have the Gneisenau without the Scharnhorst, mate!
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You can't have the Gneisenau without the Scharnhorst, mate!
Indeed, Salmon & Gluckstein.
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Any chance of putting a couple of photographs on this after the originals got lost by Photobucket?
The Churchill in the engine bay would be neat.
Thanks
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Pics are too big I'll get some new later.
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Cool!
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Sadly the masking tape I used to hold it together has all failed and I've got a massive jigsaw!
I'll see about reassembling it at some point...
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Clever sod! You're going for the 3D puzzle crossover market aren't you?
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Hey Rich, any progress on the giant rodent?
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The masking tape has now failed and it's fallen to bits... lol
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This keeps coming up... people seem facinated by this massive white elephant.
Unsure if I want to finish this one day or if I should just sell it as-is... time is now an even more limited resource!
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Sell the prototype, or start mass production of something that will probably never be a success?
You're faced with much the same canundrum as the third reich engineers...
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It could be mass produced but not by me.