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Title: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on April 19, 2017, 06:55:52 AM: Out of all the manufacturers out there in 28mm, does anyone do a Wehrmacht officer figure with some real sharp character to it?

Ideally, I'm thinking a real cocksure, smarmy, asshole - probably on the younger side. In terms of pose, perhaps strutting for inspection with both hands behind his back, adjusting a glove, or insouciantly smoking a Juno or an Ekstein. Anything that communicates the attitude, really.

The head doesn't matter, I can make do or convert as needed. It's the body/pose I'm after.

Some of you might suggest Artizan (especially as Von Krauch is both smoking and adjusting a sleeve), but I have most of the Artizan officers, and while they have lots of character and I like them as figures, none of them have much energy. They all seem kind of dumpy or stuffy - which is fine! I have uses for them too. I just happen to need something a bit more of a dandy.
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on April 19, 2017, 07:55:40 AM: What about:
http://stoessisheroes.com/product/german-officer-hans/ (http://stoessisheroes.com/product/german-officer-hans/)

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=93289.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=93289.0)
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on April 19, 2017, 08:16:25 AM: Hmm, he has some potential.
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Duke Donald on April 19, 2017, 08:21:24 AM: I've got a bit of time on my hands and was just wondering what I could sculpt. I could make you one if you sent me a precise drawing of photo. I'm not a pro but can sculpt reasonably well (picture of my last sculpt below)

If the sculpt turns out fantastic, i could do a few resin copies and send you a couple. If it is OK, I'll send you the original as I have no use for it. I'd be happy to do it for free on the condition that you paint it to your highest standard. I always wondered how one of my sculpts would look if painted by someone who can paint.

(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc450/Duke_Donald/20170102_164244_zpsnifks4oq.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on April 19, 2017, 09:10:34 AM: You're a dab hand at sculpting mate (always loved your Aline conversion), but I'll probably want to do up my own conversion on this one I expect.

There's already probably hundreds of Wehrmacht officer figures out there, so having one more custom done seems like overkill when I'm sure there's something that can be made to suit out of existing bits.

Many thanks for the extremely generous offer though!
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Hammers on April 19, 2017, 09:13:16 AM: Pic of Pulp Figures Gestapo goons
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Harry Faversham on April 19, 2017, 09:18:10 AM: They don't come any smarmier than Captain Stransky...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ThxGrsR2qr4/UrUmusyO3EI/AAAAAAAAWbM/HYeq8KhJJN0/s1600/moiterei+-+Stransky+3.JPG)

::)
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Major Tom on April 19, 2017, 09:24:36 AM: Might work if you replace the pistol with a riding crop and gloves.

http://www.nonsenseminiatures.com/historical/9-miniatura-001.html (http://www.nonsenseminiatures.com/historical/9-miniatura-001.html)
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on April 19, 2017, 09:34:14 AM: Quote from: Hammers on April 19, 2017, 09:13:16 AM
Pic of Pulp Figures Gestapo goons

The top middle or top right fellows certainly have the right sort of attitude and is still a possibility (I had considered Bob Murch's fine figures). but converting them from Gestapo to regular Wehrmacht might be a bit of a finicky pain (wrong collar, and I'd need to remove the armband and sam browne belt).

Quote from: Harry Faversham on April 19, 2017, 09:18:10 AM
They don't come any smarmier than Captain Stransky...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ThxGrsR2qr4/UrUmusyO3EI/AAAAAAAAWbM/HYeq8KhJJN0/s1600/moiterei+-+Stransky+3.JPG)

::)

True! But full battle dress isn't what I had in mind.

Too bad this 1:35th figure isn't in 1:48 (I mix some 1:48s in with my stuff, notably DUST)

SS runes on collar. Please remember not to post Nazi symbols, even on figures.

Speaking of DUST, I could also convert their Desert Fox single... but eh bit overpriced and I'd rather not give them money if I have alternatives (this is currently my fallback plan if I can't find anything better). His aristocratic stance is good, so I could swap an arm or two to get the right attitude.

(http://www.dustgame.com/ufiles/AX100-KS-W2.jpg)

The Bob Murch fellows really do have that smug, arrogant attitude in the body that I'm looking for, I must say.
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Westfalia Chris on April 19, 2017, 10:03:14 AM: Bolt Action used to sell a German Officer with cigarette. Nice and quirky figure including a monocle. I cannot find him in their current webstore, though.

(http://www.displacedminiatures.com/images/img.1161778635538.jpg)

Chap in the left pic. The other two are still available in the "Guarding the Chateau" set.
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Earther on April 19, 2017, 10:13:57 AM: The guy on the left?

(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2006/oct/317830b.jpg)

http://shop.eastridingminiatures.co.uk/aw2-139-p.asp (http://shop.eastridingminiatures.co.uk/aw2-139-p.asp)
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Lowtardog on April 19, 2017, 10:49:50 AM: Pulp figures ?

Quote from: Westfalia Chris
Pulp Figures Gestapo Goons, removed for the third time. Jesus, folks, I know it is difficult to find pics of Nazi figures without swastikas or SS runes, but please maken ze effort, ja? ;)

Woops sorry didn`t click ;D
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: aphillathehun on April 19, 2017, 12:49:46 PM: the guy in this pack seems like he might be in the realm of what you are looking for:

https://us-store.warlordgames.com/collections/german-army/products/german-heer-command-1939-42
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on April 19, 2017, 06:57:58 PM: Quote from: Westfalia Chris on April 19, 2017, 10:03:14 AM
Bolt Action used to sell a German Officer with cigarette. Nice and quirky figure including a monocle. I cannot find him in their current webstore, though.

(http://www.displacedminiatures.com/images/img.1161778635538.jpg)

Chap in the left pic. The other two are still available in the "Guarding the Chateau" set.

That's another strong contender. Yes, very much the right attitude!

The problem with coming from an arts background is you know how much a pose can convey about character!

Also, sorry about the collar runes on the one image... was keeping an eye out for Swastikas, but forgot about those.
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on April 19, 2017, 07:03:34 PM: There is always the Crooked Dice Despotic Dictator

http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/wp/product/villains-1/ (http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/wp/product/villains-1/)
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on April 19, 2017, 07:09:25 PM: I thought about him! He has the same issue that Bob Murch's figures have in that his uniform is a Gestapo one (or close enough) rather than army and converting that would be really fiddly work.

I've been tempted to pick him up as a Gestapo officer though!
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Duke Donald on April 20, 2017, 12:48:12 AM: You're welcome and thanks for the nice words.

There is obviously no shortage of Wehrmacht officer miniatures, but I'm not sure I've ever seen one that fits your description. To me, he should look like Olrik from the Blake and Mortimer comics, but in a Wehrmacht uniform and without a moustache.

Olrik:
(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc450/Duke_Donald/Olrik_zpstwjsb7ur.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on April 20, 2017, 01:35:03 AM: Yes, that's precisely the right sort of idea. That casually arrogant strut is an excellent pose.

Most Wehrmacht officer figures are just intended for normal military games and not pulp villainy, so they're simply sculpted as army officers, not megalomaniacs. At the same time, most pulp figure makers don't bother with Wehrmacht figures because they (correctly) figure most people will just buy Bolt Action or whatever. Bob Murch's Gestapo figures seem like an exception, but actually they fill a hole, since most military minis makers don't have a Gestapo line.

Basically, my Nazi pulp league is being lead by a charismatic con man (who does have a few legitimate talents) who has charmed and sleazed his way up the ranks. The exact character description I typed last year was

Quote
Oberst Karl Schimmer

A man of at-best mixed military record, questionable background, and atrocious personal habits. Party ties and charisma have helped keep his career afloat, but it is Schimmer's grasp of the arcane - however tenous and drug-fuelled - that interests the Ahnenerbe.

Karl will assure you that he is always winning. ;)

I have several heads I could use - I just need the body. I could even add the uniform details myself if I could find a figure in riding pants and a plain military-cut jacket with the right sort of pose, seeing as I converted most of my German soldiers from Copplestone Russians.
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on April 20, 2017, 08:31:41 AM: Bizarrely the office here might work if you can get it:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=93461.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=93461.0)
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on April 20, 2017, 09:14:54 AM: Wow, haha, I wonder how many other sci-fi minis series have blatant nazi callbacks. I don't mean, like Imperial Commissars, I mean like this where they're just straight up in a nazi uniform barring a detail or two.
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: commissarmoody on April 20, 2017, 11:50:26 PM: Quote from: Ultravanillasmurf on April 20, 2017, 08:31:41 AM
Bizarrely the office here might work if you can get it:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=93461.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=93461.0)
http://store-rbjgc-com.3dcartstores.com/STB401-GENERAL-AURORA-SALT-SERGEANT-PEPPER_p_68.html
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Kommando_J on April 21, 2017, 01:02:58 PM: The officer with the cigarette from the first page is still available, type in christmas to warlord games and he should come up.
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Poiter50 on April 22, 2017, 02:46:46 AM: Yes, that is the original Lardie figure set.

Quote from: Kommando_J on April 21, 2017, 01:02:58 PM
The officer with the cigarette from the first page is still available, type in christmas to warlord games and he should come up.
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on April 22, 2017, 11:19:52 AM: Nice find!
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Hammers on April 27, 2017, 09:54:57 AM: Quote from: Duke Donald on April 20, 2017, 12:48:12 AM
You're welcome and thanks for the nice words.

There is an overall unamended dearth of Blake and Mortimer look alike figures for the 28mm market.
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Daeothar on May 05, 2017, 11:23:39 AM: These are a few from Artizan that I think might be workable:

General Von Krauch (http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1714)

Rommel (http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1326)

Then there's Copplestone:

The 2nd and 5th from the left in the german Officers WW2026 (http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/worldwar2/german) pack.

Also; Ebob Miniatures:

The Ferrets (http://www.ebobminiatures.com/products/stalagluft.htm#2) pack has potential (might need adding officer caps), and a perfect miniature would be the Kommandant miniature, which sadly is only a freebie with the 'Germans Bonus Set'.

There are more, but most of those have already been pointed out... :)
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on May 10, 2017, 12:39:26 AM: Quote from: Daeothar on May 05, 2017, 11:23:39 AM
These are a few from Artizan that I think might be workable:

General Von Krauch (http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1714)

Rommel (http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1326)

Then there's Copplestone:

The 2nd and 5th from the left in the german Officers WW2026 (http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/worldwar2/german) pack.

Also; Ebob Miniatures:

The Ferrets (http://www.ebobminiatures.com/products/stalagluft.htm#2) pack has potential (might need adding officer caps), and a perfect miniature would be the Kommandant miniature, which sadly is only a freebie with the 'Germans Bonus Set'.

There are more, but most of those have already been pointed out... :)

Good suggestions. I have both the Artizan ones as mentioned in my first post. The Foundry ones are quite small, I believe, smaller than I normally go for.

The ebob is intriguing though! I have his limited-issue 1:48 stalingrad feldwebel, which is beautiful. The pic on the site is tiny though! Anyone here have one? Maybe I can email ebob to ask, he's always been a good, helpful sort.

In the meantime I have a spare set of legs which will work and I know I can sculpt the torso myself. If I can find a good head, I may well do up my own conversion. But if Ebob's figure is nice and the right size, why not eh?
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on May 10, 2017, 07:36:00 PM: Ah, it turns out he's on the smaller size - true 28mm. Rats!
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: Daeothar on May 12, 2017, 12:11:43 PM: Too bad... :?

I used to have a pack of the Ebob sculpting dollies, but those were too slight as well. So obviously Ebob minis are not compatible with other 28mm lines then. Shame...
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: rumacara on May 12, 2017, 02:30:08 PM: Have you checked the Black Tree Design Range of germans?
There are some officers that might work.
Title: Re: Looking for a good smarmy Wehrmacht officer figure
Post by: FramFramson on May 12, 2017, 08:38:03 PM: Quote from: Daeothar on May 12, 2017, 12:11:43 PM
Too bad... :?

I used to have a pack of the Ebob sculpting dollies, but those were too slight as well. So obviously Ebob minis are not compatible with other 28mm lines then. Shame...

Depends on the mini. Bolt Action are on the smallish-to-average side, so I'm sure ebob's stuff would fit with them. I use Copplestone as my "baseline" and have some smaller and some larger figures, so I'm closer to 32mm (which lets me use 1:48th figures as taller or larger characters who still mix well).