Milliput or Green Stuff?

[warrenss2]

I'm new to modifying miniatures and making scenery.

Because I have some upcoming ideas and work to do in my gaming table's scenery I though I'd post these questions to your collective experience, knowledge and genius.

I've used green stuff, but would like to know more about this Milliput Stuff.

Which is better (in your humble opinion)? And Why?

Thanks,
Warren

[OSHIROmodels]

It can depend on what you intend it for, and also the consistancy with which you mix it (a hard mix for edges and a soft mix for clothes).

I've found that green stuff is good for smaller and more detailed parts as it holds itself together better than milliput and that milliput is easier over larger areas.

You will get people who will swear to using only one or the other and a lot of it is down to personal peference.

Get some of both and practice (and then take some pics to show us  )

cheers

James

[Malamute]

Warren,

Jim is spot on by saying it all depends what you want to use it for.

There are also loads of different types out there now as well- Brown stuff, Procreate etc.

I used to use Milliput for all my conversions etc. I love the fact that you can smooth the surface with water (or saliva in my case). So filing joins etc was a dream as you could get a totally smooth finish and see no joins.

I moved over to Green Stuff several years ago and it took me a while to get used to it, as its very different to working with Miliput.

[blackstone]

It's best to buy some and play around with it. The differences between the too will become apparent. Basically milliput could be said to be like clay and grey stuff a bit like chewing gum. If you roll a "sausage" of each and pull the ends the milliput will break but the green stuff will stretch. One benefit with milliput is you can get it to set rock hard by mixing more harderer instead of the 50/50 mix recommeded. So like Jim said if you wanted something with a strong and with a sharp edge milliput is better than green stuff.

[former user]

I cannot offer very deep experience
it is long ago that I did lead conversions, and I used Milliput to fill the gaps
recently i done some very little modelling (saddles) with greenstuff, and though good for its firmness in modelling, I find it very hard to work with it

I also heard that modellers use any kind of modelling putty for different purposes, up to fimo
so I guess it comes to what the more experienced said:
it seems to be a personal preference, and I admire anyone who really is into the hard work of developing the skills to create the wonderful miniatures we all buy or who manage to convert them to that standards
so good luck and share please

I personally do a lot of conversion in plastic, but this is for the lazy one and not the topic here

[white knight]

milliput has the advantage that it can be sanded, but I find it very difficult to work with otherwise.
I only use it for bulkwork. Otherwise I use greenstuff. I also used brownstuff in the past which is better for sharp edges than greenstuff.
A lot of pro sculptors are switching over to procreate.

In the end though, it all comes down to what works best for you.

[warrenss2]

I've used green stuff on some miniatures.

Thundarr - the fur tunic is green stuff.
Ookla the Mok - front bread, boots, trunks.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=12826.0

Westwind's Human Biker gang - extra stowage on their bikes.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=13030.0

I need to make some cross tombstones & a Doc Savage trademark torn up shirt.

Which of the two is cheaper in price tag? I've been using GW's (Gimme Wallet) green stuff.

PS - Anyone have links to various ways to make water for the gaming table? Swampy pools for the most part.

[OSHIROmodels]

I love the fact that you can smooth the surface with water (or saliva in my case).

Are you licking your models Nick?   

For swampy water I use lots and lots of layers of yacht varnish as it has a really good colour and gives great depth (haven't got any good photos of any at the mo).

Milliput is cheaper and you can get green stuff cheaper at Heresy http://www.heresyminiatures.com/tools.htm

I've used procreate and found it to be a balance between gs and mp ( I like it  )

cheers

James

[Captain Blood]

I love the fact that you can smooth the surface with water (or saliva in my case).

That conjures up such a lovely, classy image... 

[Svennn]

Its a well known fact that licking Milliput makes your hair fall out

[OSHIROmodels]

I thought it gave you hairy palms? 

cheers

James

[Ramshackle_Curtis]

You can get milliput in hobby shops, craft shops and even diy places. Its cheap and very strong, good for small scenery.

Greesn Stuff is made by Kneadadite and is cheaper here:
http://www.sylmasta.com/acatalog/Creative_Kneadatite_Putties.html

Or even tirantes.

I prefer Procreate and I sell it in my shop for as chaep as you will find anywhere on the web.

Again though, GS and ProCreate are very expensive if you want to do scenery.

A good alternative is Super Sculpey. Its alot cheaper and fairly strong. It holds detail really well and you have to bake it to set it, so work time is almos infinite.
http://www.sculpey.com/Products/products_poly_supersculp.htm

[warrenss2]

jimbibbly - You pick on Nick for licking his miniatures, but you "procreate" on yours?!?!?! 

Ramshackle_Curtis - you just lead me to the motherload, my friend. Thanks you VERY much!!!