Help in finding a "close to" perfect rule set for my VIkings/Normans/Byzantines/

[Atheling]

Hi Olaf,

I'm in the same boat as you- searching for a set of rules that suits..... I'm not getting very far as at our club everyone is still playing WAB with little chance of that changing in the near future- a blessing on one hand (I know the rules) and a curse on the other!

I've had a good read through Swordpoint, which seems to tick all the boxes; the line of battle (preventing elite units from smashing lesser units) is excellent but it seems to have little in terms of a consistent following unfortunately. Swordpoint does seem to be worth a punt if you have a player in mind who would be willing too(?).

Darrell.

[armchairgeneral]

Midgard sound like they might suit?

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=146760.0

[JW Boots]

Might I point you to The Warrior? Although it is a supplement (for free) covering the ancient and medieval periods to Der Söldner that covers the mid-14th to mid17th century.

More info and the free pdf download on https://tabletopmatrixwargames689972109.wordpress.com/?frame-nonce=58c5b0ee47&_gl=1%2A1nbok9j%2A_gcl_au%2ANTUyNjg2NDE2LjE3MjU5NzE4ODY.

[SteveBurt]

If you like WAB v1 why not just continue using that?

[Mainly28s]

Steve, I think the main reason for trying to find something else is the "shiny" factor. Many people are reluctant to play an "old" and perhaps "dead" system, because it's old.

[Atheling]

There's only really TTS, Swordpoint and Sword and spear out there to try.

WAB still works well for Beyond the Golden Gate with the WAB V.2 rules. We've been playing a lot of El Cid games and have managed to integrate a number of El Cid Supplement with a high degree of success.

[Pattus Magnus]

Another set of rules that could work is Midgard. The book already has lists for El Cid, and rules for creating profiles, so it should be no problem to come up with suitable unit profiles. Lots of folks are using it for fantasy games, but don’t let that put you off, it was designed for games set in the early medieval period and leaving out the fantasies elements won’t break anything.

[leadfool]

Dare i say it....Write your own!  They become new and shiny even if all your ideas are taken from other rules sets, modified to your particular criteria.  Put on a game with both armies and so it is easy to find players.  You take the role of the GM.