Author Topic: Figure ID -CoC (Read 4142 times)

Bravo Six · « **on:** 22 July 2010, 08:45:58 AM »

Guys, any idea where this bad boy is from? Who makes him?

http://www.geocities.jp/roundtable12knights/sunl1.jpg

-Todd

Ramirez Noname · « **Reply #1 on:** 22 July 2010, 08:51:24 AM »

Hi Todd,

He's a Mirliton "Hell Beast" check out the link - http://www.mirliton.it/index.php?cName=nightmares-28mm

Ramirez

Auton · « **Reply #2 on:** 22 July 2010, 08:57:47 AM »

Used to be Grenadier Miniatures code 217 Spawn of Cthulhu, when he was originally out

Bravo Six · « **Reply #3 on:** 22 July 2010, 09:12:46 AM »

Thanks Harvey! It's a GREAT lookin' model.

-Todd

Commander Vyper · « **Reply #4 on:** 22 July 2010, 09:41:32 AM »

Quote from: Bravo Six on 22 July 2010, 09:12:46 AM

Thanks Harvey! It's a GREAT lookin' model.

-Todd

You can get it from Tim at Miniature Heroes, much more secure than direct from Italy with their appalling postal service.

Bravo Six · « **Reply #5 on:** 22 July 2010, 09:51:18 AM »

Thanks for the tip CV.

-Todd

dreamingleopard · « **Reply #6 on:** 29 July 2010, 05:31:01 AM »

Just click on the pic of the fig and it takes you straight to the page with the reference, and often you will find on that page, where the production rights are at the current moment - with a link to the manufacturer's site. As we can, we try to give the current production product code as well, if it is being re-released. If not, then at least you know who to write a letter to.

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Commander Vyper · « **Reply #7 on:** 29 July 2010, 10:13:45 AM »

Hi there,

Just to update your wiki re: Mirlton's ownership of CoC sculpts from the old grenadier ranges.

Doug at EM4 miniatures has the rights for a reasonable number of the old range that Mirlton do not (sevitors of the old gods, proto- shoggoth, dimension shamblers etc... and should be referred to: a) for completeness, b) accuracy and c) as the formal family tree link back to Grenadier.

http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Horrors.html

Thanks, hope this helps build the value of your resource.

The Commander

dreamingleopard · « **Reply #8 on:** 29 July 2010, 04:33:29 PM »

Quote from: Commander Vyper on 29 July 2010, 10:13:45 AM

Hi there,

Just to update your wiki re: Mirlton's ownership of CoC sculpts from the old grenadier ranges.

Doug at EM4 miniatures has the rights for a reasonable number of the old range that Mirlton do not (sevitors of the old gods, proto- shoggoth, dimension shamblers etc... and should be referred to: a)Doug at EM4 for completeness, b) accuracy and c) as the formal family tree link back to Grenadier.

http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Horrors.html

Thanks, hope this helps build the value of your resource.

The Commander

I'd like to clarify this once and for all, and in defence of Mirliton, and with no disrespect to em4 (whose figs I love dearly, too).

The figs you are referring to are NOT Grenadiers. They are Metal Magic's:
http://recipesrealm.com/wiki/index.php?title=Metal_Magic_-_Dunwich_Detectives

Still doubt? Compare em4's listing with this one:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/sol/metal-magic/dunwich-detective.html

I will be working on this page soon, and each Metal Magic fig will have its em4 product code credit under it, just as we have referenced Mirliton on the Grenadier pages.

Grenadier produced NO servitors, NO protoshogoths, one shogoth (6502e) and one dimensional shambler (216a), which you can find here:
http://recipesrealm.com/wiki/index.php?title=Call_of_Cthulhu#6502_Creatures_Box_Set

Just looking at the sculpting styles, you can tell em4's figs were not sculpted by John Dennett or Andrew Chernak, both of Grenadier's Call of Cthulhu/Nightmares lines. Ask yourself why they'd have two different concepts of dimensional shamblers.

Now if you're still thinking the Lost Minis Wiki made this up out of the blue from our ignorance, check out the catalogues of Metal Magic at Mega Miniatures.

The 1990 Metal Magic pdf catalogue on page 25 shows all em4's Dunwich Detective sculpts: http://www.megaminis.com/0-MINI-MAG.htm

You won't find any em4 Dunwich Detective figure in any Grenadier mag.

If your argument is that Grenadier bought out the Metal Magic Dunwich Detectives after this catalog, then ask Doug from em4 who he paid for the figs. He paid Metal Magic as it went under, same as Johnny Lauck of Mega did for the Fantasy line.

If you don't feel like doing the legwork as I obviously have, just email Doug at EM4 yourself and ask him. He'll tell you his figs are Metal Magic's.

We'll all thank you to clarify this wherever you go now that you know, instead of helping to perpetuate the myth. (Sorry if I sound riled about this... I'm tired of arguing this same point to people, so prove it to yourself and help us out, okay? No hard feelings.)

fairoaks024 · « **Reply #9 on:** 29 July 2010, 05:01:33 PM »

dreamingleopard is correct,

all those figures on the Em4 site are old metal magic figures, I remember buying those from them in the early 80s.

none were ever Grenadier figures, as i bought all those too at the time.

regards

jim

ballistic_bro · « **Reply #10 on:** 29 July 2010, 11:56:23 PM »

Oooh, that's nice, think I might order one from Miniature Heroes. Cheers guys.

Doug ex-em4 · « **Reply #11 on:** 30 July 2010, 09:24:27 AM »

Gentlemen

Just to confirm the actual history and situation, the range we sell is, indeed, the old Metal Magic range (Dunwich Detectives) which we purchased some years ago (along with their Space Lords). It has no connection with the old Grenadier Cthulhu range.

What may complicate matters is the fact that we do have some of the old Grenadier ranges (Fantasy Warriors and Future Warriors) so it's easy to see where confusion may come in. Added to this my own connection with Grenadier Models UK on the old days and you have a recipe for potential misunderstanding.

Doug

ballistic_bro · « **Reply #12 on:** 03 August 2010, 11:01:52 PM »

Ordered from Miniature Heroes on Friday, arrived on Monday. Great service and a lovely figure.

Now to get it ready and painted.

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