Architects of War under another name.

[nicknorthstar]

Is Battle Valour Games the old owners of the bankrupt Architects of War trading under another name?

[Elbows]

Are they based out of Pennsylvania?  If so, perhaps?  I doubt it - they tanked really hard with the AQOTMF stuff (shame, quite a fun game - got to play it yesterday).  I doubt they'd be back up and running that quickly. 

[Dilettante Gamer]

Are they based out of Pennsylvania?  If so, perhaps?  I doubt it - they tanked really hard with the AQOTMF stuff (shame, quite a fun game - got to play it yesterday).  I doubt they'd be back up and running that quickly. 

Wow, just learning of this. Agree - All Quiet on the Martian Front was well executed but perhaps too niche in retrospect. Shame, they had a lot to offer otherwise. Scenery in particular.

[Elbows]

Essentially the company behind the game/site ended up in bankruptcy (announced last week I think, officially via facebook).  The owners of the company moved to Pennsylvania because that state has less terrible bankruptcy laws/penalties.

The game received a healthy Kickstarter but they dove all in with literally 100+ product codes for a game which stalled heavily when it came to the market.  The game is currently OOP (though with such a large cult following and so many brand new products - I'd imagine the stuff is being sold to someone --- so I'm hoping the stuff is re-released).

This is all second hand information/scuttlebutt, but it seems to be the general consensus of the state of affairs.

[Quendil]

This was an email from the creator or the crush of iron game (The kickstarter that Architects / Alien Dungeon pulled).  I don't really know anything about it.


Let me first say that this project is in no way associated with Robot Peanut Studios, Architects of War, Alien Dungeon or any other entity.



I am a one man, 2 dog, and 3 cat operation. I have been working on the game and miniatures now for nearly a year, and was going to launch it through Alien Dungeon, as this would have helped me out on many levels, but sadly that business is no more. Please do not ask me questions about that company as I am not able to talk about it.



So I am left to my own devices. I have set up my own business called Battle Valor Games.



Battle Valor Fantasy will launch as a Kickstarter in early February. You will see some changes. Particularly in the price of the miniatures which will be a much better value, the structure of the Kickstarter etc.



Being a one man show, I am in need of some help from anyone who might be kind enough to offer any.



Painting Miniatures; I cannot get everything done I need to quick enough, so I am looking for 10 painters, who might be willing to paint some figures to keep. I would send you miniatures, you would paint them, then ship them back to me for photographing. I would pay for the shipping. I would then ship them back to you for you to keep for your army. If you are interested and willing please send me some pictures of your work. I need good painters. These may not get featured in the kickstarter, but may well appear in the rulebook and on the website post kickstarter. I will picture everything I can on a Facebook page once I have that set up.



Play Testers; I am keen to get some people trying out the rules. I am looking for 10-15 people who might be willing to have a look at and try out the rules. I have developed the rules with a group of very good play testers, but the more eyes we get on it the better in the long wrong. Let me know if you are interested.



I obviously might get more volunteers than needed. If you do not get chosen please do not be insulted, but I can only work with so many people.



Other Stuff;

Demos; I am also looking for people that might be willing to take the game to shows or stores and demo it to help build interest in the long term.



Tournaments Organizers; I fully intend to get a network of Tournaments up and running and will be offering both Prize Support and Trophies.



Above All; I need as much help as possible spreading the word, beating the drum, and getting people interested in both the game and figures, so that when the kickstarter launches it is successful.



I have 20 plus races under design for the game, 4 will be featured in the kickstarter. Another 6 are already well under way. Over 90% of the figures for the kickstarter have already been designed, sculpted and molded. You will see the massive range of models in the kickstarter. There are a handful I am awaiting the sculpts on which will come in over the next several days.



The fulfillment of the Kickstarter will be relatively quick.



I look forward to hearing from, and please feel free to send me any questions, comments etc you have about the project.



Thanks in advance for your time
,

Ed Spettigue, his 2 dogs, and 3 cats.
ed@battlevalorgames.com

[nicknorthstar]

Thanks Quendil, that is interesting.

Ed was being a little disingenuous in that statement, he was very much part of AoW.

[nicknorthstar]

Plus, from this side of the Water, AoW owed a lot of money to a number of people, & The Crush of Iron Kickstarter looked like Ernie trying to raise money. There was never a mention of him doing it for someone else.

[Quendil]

Yes all sounds very dodgy to me, especially as I though Ed was supposed to be their sales manager

[Grimmnar]

Ed was being a little disingenuous in that statement, he was very much part of AoW.

Yes all sounds very dodgy to me, especially as I though Ed was supposed to be their sales manager

Ed himself says he left GW in 2012 and has been with AoW since then.

Grimm

[nicknorthstar]

I carried this conversation to The Miniatures Page and Ed replied. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, I've said what my suspicions were, it's up to him to run BVF now.