Beevor's "Russia: Revolution and Civil War 1917 - 1921)

[Hammers]

I have to check if you BoBsters have read this book? I am in hte middle of it and must say Beevor is certainly adding new insights for me. I'd be much interested in hearing you views on it.

[traveller]

I listened to it on Storytel. Lots of interesting info but it was hard to follow with all the names and places that were referred to. Maybe it is easier to read, especially if you would have a map in front of you.

[Dr Bogo]

It's sitting on my desk but I haven't gotten started yet - I'll be curious, particularly as I just finished a second read of Smele's 1916-26 Civil Wars which I found left me with mixed feelings on it.

[Hammers]

I listened to it on Storytel. Lots of interesting info but it was hard to follow with all the names and places that were referred to. Maybe it is easier to read, especially if you would have a map in front of you.

Exactly. I will listen through, but I realize I need the book. It is not a pretty picture Beevor writes. One is stricken by the insight in how cyclic Russian history is.

[traveller]

Exactly. I will listen through, but I realize I need the book. It is not a pretty picture Beevor writes. One is stricken by the insight in how cyclic Russian history is.

I agree on the cyclicality, almost scary to listen to the same names of places in Ukraine that we hear today. The cruelty in this conflict, as of today, is also striking.

[SJWi]

I have the book but haven't yet read it. I heard Beevor give a talk on the RCW based on the book back in June. I think k his point was that the war was won by one group of ba**ards beating another group of ba**Ards by being even bigger bas***ds. Nuff said.

[FramFramson]

I agree on the cyclicality, almost scary to listen to the same names of places in Ukraine that we hear today. The cruelty in this conflict, as of today, is also striking.

WWII as well, obviously. Much of the eastern front fighting was fought across the same lands.