AI Military Art?

[ced1106]

> Within my bubble of people with creative occupations, the big problem with AI in general is not its potential as a tool but the origin of its current systems. There currently are no AI engines, text, image or video that are created from data purely harvested from sources that explicitly agreed to this. (or in the public domain etc).

That's absolutely correct -- and it's been correct long before AI. All that fan art -- especially the art that is purchased for money? Yeah, they should have set up an "explicit" agreement with the IP owner, but they haven't. People who have no money seeing others, especially those who have no money, take advantage of them has long been a problem with legal systems since lawyers were invented.

Speaking of lawyers, lawyers will have their fun when someone *who has money* (eg a bone fide business) uses AI and *someone else who has money* claims an unlawful use of their IP.  (I suppose that's why you don't hear retail-level companies using AI for their art.) Who knows the repercussions will be for the little guys. I'm *very* armchair interested in IP legal repercussions (who else remembers HeroQuest?) and will definitely get out the popcorn when it's AI's turn. OTOH, For business use, such as the commonly mentioned use of AI for fashion, or artwork that a company purchases from an illustrator (and, btw, illustration swiping is a pre-AI thing, see the fun link below) or stock illustration company, should be perfectly legal. I'm sure we'll see individuals and companies producing resources specifically for AI (which will make the Ghostbuster's cast's contracts about likeness use even *more* important).

https://www.tabletopgaming.co.uk/news/scythe-designer-responds-after-games-artist-accused-of-copying/

[nozza_uk]

I'd love to have an AI generator where I can, say, plug in a description of an rpg character and get a portrait in any style I like made for it, that would be awesome.

Ideagram sort of does that now. Like all AI, ite relies on having a good prompt.

Here's some AI generated RPG characters it has created for me.






Here's the thread I started on the Workbench forum on using AI - https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=145559.0.

[YPU]

That's absolutely correct -- and it's been correct long before AI. All that fan art -- especially the art that is purchased for money? Yeah, they should have set up an "explicit" agreement with the IP owner, but they haven't. People who have no money seeing others, especially those who have no money, take advantage of them has long been a problem with legal systems since lawyers were invented.

In a sense, you could describe the current AI models as industrializing art theft, if you steal enough from enough different people and throw it in a big blender, it's all fair, right. 

Somehow the bigger the company the easier it gets to shirk off the stink as well. Mr Rozalski lost a lot of social credit among his peers and potential customers when those allegations started appearing for example, which I'm not sure is happening to the big AI companies.

As for them waking the big fish with the big shot lawyers, there have been rumblings here and there with different countries making very different rulings on the copyrightable nature of AI images/text and if they can be used commercially etc.
Telling here is also that some of the biggest image generators have started to ban specific words. Particularly heinous or graphic things sure, but also copyright IP-related words that so happen to be owned by say, Dinsey or the like.

Ideagram sort of does that now. Like all AI, ite relies on having a good prompt.

Here's some AI generated RPG characters it has created for me.

I think you missed the second sentence in that paragraph mate. I'm not saying I wish any program could do this, most of them can, some even manage to crawl out of the uncanny valley on occasion. I'm saying I wish there was an option that did it without me becoming another tally on the ever-rising user numbers proudly presented at the next shareholder meeting by the aforementioned abhorrent mass of wriggling bloodsuckers.
I sincerely do not care if somebody uses those images for their own campaign or prototype or what have you, lets be honest nobody was going to pay an artists for it, they would just use any image from google and since they aren't making any money from it, I really couldn't care less.
But every new person using these programs, every new generated image is a vote of confidence in the system. It's either saying you don't get how the process works, or you do know and just don't care. And somebody on the top of that shitty pile is using that exact fact to convince others to give him more money, because see, the people don't care, they want this.