Looking for 25mm Anglo-Saxons

[Kikuchiyo]

I'm looking for some on the small size metal 25mm Anglo-Saxons

I've tried 1/72 from tumbling dice and they are a bit small

Really looking for 25mm from base to top of head which I've tread in the past termed as 25mm truescaleTwo options I've found are from tinsoldieruk, lamming miniatures wargames design workshop

Anyone own any miniatures from any of them

Or have any ideas, I'm after figures that scale well against old Ralpatha figures

[vodkafan]

I have quite a lot of Tin Soldier and I don't think they will be small enough for you. The Lammings should work very well.

[Moriarty]

Lamming have a style all their own - I doubt they’d ‘fit’ with Ral Partha.

Prince August do a suitably sized mould for ‘Barbarians’, which gives three poses of Dark Age figures, including one in short mail shirt.

You might be able to persuade Irregular to run off some of their old 25mm dark age figures if you want enough to make it worthwhile.

Other than that, have a look at eBay for ‘unknown 25mm’ lots, and at Hinds Figures there. Sometimes old manufacturers pop up. My D&D figures are a mish-mash of rescue figures from eBay.
Good luck!

[Kikuchiyo]

I have a few Prince August, they fit well,

I mostly stalk ebay but I've not seen the wargames design workshop line come up

The Saxons look like they would fit well as do some but not all of the lamming figs

[Moriarty]

The legend has it that Lamming were sculpted using Bill Lamming as a model :-

You could look for ‘peasants’ on eBay - add spear and shield for instant Fyrd.

[Hobgoblin]

See the attached for a comparison. From left to right, you've got a Lamming knight, a Julie Guthrie Grenadier half-orc (one of the larger Fantasy Personalities), a Lamming Viking berserker, a Ral Partha cleric, a Lamming Viking warrior, a Ral Partha shield maiden and a Lamming wizard. The Lamming Vikings are exactly the same size as their

As you can see, the Lamming figures aren't massively different in height from those old Ral Partha figures, but they're quite different in proportions. Lamming figures mix well with Minifigs; they're in a very similar style.

That said, I absolutely would use all of these together in a game; at that sort of scale, you're going to struggle to achieve the sort of close compatibility you might get with modern 28s. And I'd note that the Lamming Viking and the Ral Partha shield maiden would look fine together: sexual dimorphism is real, after all!

I've got a few Tin Soldier UK human figures. From what I can see of those, they're more in the Minifigs/Lamming mode than early Ral Partha (stockier, bigger heads, etc.). Again, I'd use them together.

One thing maybe worth noting is that there just aren't many metal figures in the "25mm to the top of the head" bracket (unless you're talking about 1/72). My understanding is that the petiteness of those early Ral Partha figures is the result of a mistake by Tom Meier: he thought that "25mm" meant "to the top of the head" whereas other sculptors had always used "to the eyes" as the height marker. That's why Ral Partha figures quite quickly increased in stature - there's a real jump between the first "fine" Tom Meier figures (i.e. the 1979 ones, not the cruder Wizards, Warriors and Warlocks range from 1978) and the slightly later ones, which are 25mm to the eye.

I'd understand "true 25mm" to be generally used to contrast with the creep into 28mm. So Lamming, Minifigs, early Citadel, etc., are "true 25mm" whereas figures by Essex and later Citadel, among others, that were being sold as "25 mm" in the 1980s, were actually much bigger - so not "true 25mm".

Given that early Tom Meier was out of synch with everyone else, I don't think there's much in the early, idiosyncratic Ral Partha size out there.

Hope the photo is of some use!

[Kikuchiyo]

Thanks for the picture

The previous suggestion of Prince August is also looking promising if I can find any

[Hobgoblin]

Yeah, the Prince August figures are probably the best match for old Ral Partha; they vary a bit in size but have more naturalistic proportions than those of most manufacturers.

The most cost-efficient way to get some would probably just be to buy some moulds and cast your own. The moulds are under £11 a shot, so not much more than the typical eBay price for three miniatures. And a fiver's worth of metal give you 10 figures.

[Kikuchiyo]

Might be something I look into next year if nothing turns up