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Offline vodkafan

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Re: 28mm Border Reivers - Help me make an up to date list/size comparisons
« Reply #45 on: 23 February 2024, 10:56:39 PM »
Lots of good information in this thread many thanks for all the comparison pics. Very timely for me- I am not interested in Border Reivers per se but rather in early 80 Years War Dutch. I have been looking at these very ranges not knowing how they compared till now.
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Offline Rogerc

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Re: 28mm Border Reivers - Help me make an up to date list/size comparisons
« Reply #46 on: 23 February 2024, 11:08:19 PM »
Cheers Vodkafan they come out well.
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Offline Freelancer

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What about Flags of War miniatures, they are probably the best Reivers on the market.
They scale well with the Wargames Atlantic conquistadors, which is useful if you need to bulk out the miniature range ( we play using Donnybrook with about 30 minis per side). TAG also work well alongside Flags of War.

Offline Metternich

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Eureka's Portuguese Conquistadors work out well too - a touch smaller and more slender, but basing can even that out.

Offline Cubs

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Did you get what you needed in the end, because I've just been lumbered with some Border Reivers (proxy) models I've got to sell.
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Offline Billythefish

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A little bump - has anybody used Keelman minaitures for Border Reivers and how to do they compare to the above makes (please x) ;

https://keelmenminiatures.co.uk/product-category/border-reivers/

Offline swiftnick

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These are the old Oupost wargames figures. I have a bunch if you need pics. They are smaller and perhaps more basic than modern figures. But they do have a certain charm.

Offline Cat

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Ah, that's where the old Outpost Reivers got to!  I was just poking at my stash last night and pondering more acquisitions, but discovered they were no longer listed at Northumbrian Painting Services / Reiver Castings who had them last.
 
I quite like them, and to date they make up the entirety of my collection.  Back at the start of this thread, I commented on the height and heft of the figures: 26-27mm toe to eye, medium heft; should mix well enough with anything this side of 30mm figures.
 
Spent a very late hot summer last night with a dram or two of whisky and window shopping for more Reivers to expand my collection for Never Mind the Billhooks.  Had pretty well settled on Colonel Bills' range.  Just put the order in for them tonight for my additions, just to add a huge amount of pose variety since I already have all the Outpost types. 

Thistle & Rose / Vendel are the same sculptor as the Col.'s, but not as much variety and pricier (even with shipping from the UK).  If I ever add even more, T&R will be in the running, because additional pose variety, for a few more units.

Offline SJWi

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Cat, I don't think you will be disappointed with the Colonel Bills figures.  My old collection are the original Vendel models plus a few Foundry Elizabethan figures for good measure. Col Bills are a tad caricatured but fit perfectly size-wise.

Offline Cat

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My order from Colonel Bills arrived late last week, I finally had a chance to check it all out, and everything arrived just fine.  He has so much pose variety [swoon], it was easy to get up to a £200+ order for free overseas shipping.  Not disappointed at all!

For my tastes, the Col./Vendel/T&R sculpts mix fine with Outpost/Reiver/Keelman.  Both lots have some natural looking size variation within them, and they overlap with each other in the middle, still providing a very natural look.

The Col.'s are 27mm–29mm toe-to-eye and very slightly heftier than Outpost 26–27mm.  The Col.'s Galloway Nags are a bit taller than the Outpost mounts, but also a natural size variation within the light horse; Outpost horses are on thicker bases and so they stand as tall in total height.

A great thing about Colonel Bills' line that I surprisingly haven't seen from others is the Jeddart stave figures (in 4 poses).  I picked up 20 jeddarts and 4 halberds for sergeants to go with them for a pair of units.
 
The other sweet piece in the line is a jail wagon with a pair of reiver convicts.  I picked up a second pack of the convicts to convert a matching pair for scarpering off when freed.  I included a note with the order that he really ought to add the escapee versions to the range for scenario use.  Anyone else ordering these should comment too to help nudge them along.

Offline Billythefish

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So col bills- keelman - TAG - col bill - keelman - tag

Surprisingly keelman seem the most flexible for mixing, bills are certainly the Alpha males.

I likely mix all for my skirmish games, I reason even back then people were short and tall. Got keelman mounted bk too and thankfully their rather nice, which helps cos they really cheap.

Could anybody please tell what the milita guys would wear, my TAG lot have cross on the front of their what appear to be  doublets? I know the garrison troops wore green and white tunics but i want something more informal for my hotrod bunch :)

« Last Edit: 09 July 2025, 04:01:08 PM by Billythefish »

 

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