? about Panther 2 tuuret

[DowVooVoo]

Was talking to some buds and they said that the germans ,late war put the panther 2 turret on panzer4 hull? If true does anyone have pics? I thought the turret ring was smaller on the mk4 then the panther. Thanks for any  help.

[Dags]

Never went beyond the planning stage as the Panther 2 (which was to have a narrower turret than the production Panther) never made it beyond the prototype stage (there's one on display in the US).

Could find a drawing if that helps....

[Aldramelech]

And to mix it up a bit further there was a unit that had a Panther with a P1V turret 

[DowVooVoo]

Thanks much!

[V]

The remains of the Panther 2 turret are at Bovington.

Was outside for years, till someone pointed out that the rusty lump of metal by the car park was in fact a Panther 2 turret...

The design on the Panzer IV chassis was flawed, the uell couldnt take the weight and the gun barrels weight put immense strain on the front running gear.

I still built one in 20mm though...

[Gunbird]

Yup, and here it is (on a new base):


Might rebase it again at a later date.

[Aldramelech]

The remains of the Panther 2 turret are at Bovington.

Was outside for years, till someone pointed out that the rusty lump of metal by the car park was in fact a Panther 2 turret...

The design on the Panzer IV chassis was flawed, the uell couldnt take the weight and the gun barrels weight put immense strain on the front running gear.

I still built one in 20mm though...

That was me actually 

[Helen]

Very interesting, thank you all.

Helen

[mondria]

thats not a Panther 2 turret thats a Panther F turret also called schmalturn designed in 1944 the Panther 2 in 1942 2 really different beasts, as far as I know there was no new turret designed for the Panther 2.

[Gunbird]

There was a new turret designed for the Panther 2 that was very similar to the F but significantly better in armour protection.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/barryslemmings/4787775812/

The visual difference with an F turret is hardly noticable on a model.

The original statement of the posters mates that a Panther II turret was mated with a Panzer IV is wrong though.

[Aldramelech]

For those who are confused by the Panther familly tree 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank#Panther_II

Yes I know its Wikipedia, but it saves me typing half a page and its not bad actually 

[Aldramelech]

The remains of the Panther 2 turret are at Bovington.

Was outside for years, till someone pointed out that the rusty lump of metal by the car park was in fact a Panther 2 turret...

The design on the Panzer IV chassis was flawed, the uell couldnt take the weight and the gun barrels weight put immense strain on the front running gear.

I still built one in 20mm though...

It wasn't in the car park, it was in the scrap pile in the workshops.

[V]

When I last saw it, it was beside the main car park. The corner opposite the old entrance.

[panzerfaust200]

When I last saw it, it was beside the main car park. The corner opposite the old entrance.

it was indeed by the old carpark... had been a sodding range target for years.... oh if only they knew

[Aldramelech]

Not when it was found