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Offline Holla_die_Waldfee

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Historical: Spear on a horse
« on: 09 February 2016, 07:38:42 AM »
Hello, maybe someone can help me.

I don't think that a norman knight on a horse always hold his spear in one hand, so how did they fix the spear on travel?

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Offline Ethelred the Almost Ready

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Re: Historical: Spear on a horse
« Reply #1 on: 09 February 2016, 08:50:41 AM »
I don't know about the Normans but failing any definite answer this might help.  Wrong era but essentially the same weapon:

 

I hope this helps in some way.  If not, just enjoy the photograph :)

Offline sukhe_bator

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Re: Historical: Spear on a horse
« Reply #2 on: 09 February 2016, 11:12:20 AM »
Norman cavalry used light spears not lances that were considerably shorter and were used overarm and possibly even thrown, as well as couched, so I imagine could be stowed more easily than lances. None of the Bayeaux tapestry depictions suggest lanyards were used and most reenactors don't seem to have added them suggesting they did not warrant them.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8325/8100229701_b7febcb3bd_b.jpg
Most spears/lances are conventionally rested with the buttspike against the RH leg/stirrup, but I imagine all sorts of ad hoc solutions were employed in the field. Knights would have had squires/men at arms and presumably a baggage animal to carry the heavier more awkward kit when not in combat.
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Offline monkeylite

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Re: Historical: Spear on a horse
« Reply #3 on: 09 February 2016, 11:32:31 AM »
Knights would have had squires/men at arms and presumably a baggage animal to carry the heavier more awkward kit when not in combat.

Yeah, not strictly the answer to the OP, but it looks like they had spear wagons:


Offline Holla_die_Waldfee

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Re: Historical: Spear on a horse
« Reply #4 on: 09 February 2016, 12:24:51 PM »
Thank you very much for the answers.

Offline painterman

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Re: Historical: Spear on a horse
« Reply #5 on: 09 February 2016, 07:15:52 PM »
I cant recall any medieval illustrations which show spears or lances on a form of rest - always being held.
On campaign they may have been packed away, or carried by lesser members of the household, if an encounter with the enemy wasn't likely.


Offline Holla_die_Waldfee

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Re: Historical: Spear on a horse
« Reply #6 on: 09 February 2016, 07:31:28 PM »
@painterman
Had the same problem, only illustrations with spears being held.

For explanation, working at the moment on cavalry scouts with bows and also want to give them spears because I thought they would also take a spear with them because it was a very effective weapon.

Offline Arlequín

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Re: Historical: Spear on a horse
« Reply #7 on: 09 February 2016, 09:44:33 PM »
Resting a spear or lance on the shoulder and using a hand to steady it is something you can do for hours with little effort. As someone said 'knights' had squires/valets too, so they could carry them instead (who cares if they are uncomfortable?). Just like there was more than one horse, there was more than one lance/spear too, so as suggested 'in the baggage' would serve if action was not expected. 

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Re: Historical: Spear on a horse
« Reply #8 on: 14 February 2016, 05:15:44 AM »
lol!  Me and my mates did an experiment where I had my buddy try to ride a bike while carrying a broomstick mimicking a spear  and he said it was not only difficult carrying the stick in hand while coasting but trying to stab something even then was difficult.  Then we tried to mimic carrying a rifle while on bicycle and even with a sling using my Mauser 98, he  claimed was a nightmare.  I know a bike is no way like a horse except that you ride both of them but it gave us answers in the difficulty of control when trying to do multiple things! :D
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