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Author Topic: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Late Romans  (Read 88997 times)

Online Koyote

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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #390 on: March 17, 2022, 05:59:13 AM »


« Last Edit: March 17, 2022, 06:03:40 PM by Koyote »

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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #391 on: March 17, 2022, 07:48:30 AM »
Lots to marvel at here - the three vignettes are lovely and that conversion is fantastic work.
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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #392 on: March 17, 2022, 10:01:37 AM »
blimey, missed a lot of stuff in this tread. Superb  :-*

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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #393 on: March 17, 2022, 12:02:15 PM »
Lovely little conversion.  :-* :-*

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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #394 on: March 17, 2022, 06:01:27 PM »
Great conversion. :-* :-* :-*
I have that same miniature and i may steal your idea. :)

Back in December, I performed a similar conversion (i.e., leg transplant and shield-ectomy) on another model from that same GB Mounted Fianna set to make my first mounted Curaidh.







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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #395 on: March 17, 2022, 09:04:35 PM »
Another great conversion and painting. :-* :-*
I need to rewatch your entire thread. :D

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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #396 on: March 17, 2022, 09:42:16 PM »
That miniature is spot on,lovely work :-* :-* :-*
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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #397 on: March 18, 2022, 08:35:06 AM »
Great conversion and painting - he looks very regal.

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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #398 on: March 18, 2022, 08:42:43 AM »
Fantastic work all around, you conversion and sculpting skills match your painting! Really impressive!

It's a shame that the Gripping Beast minis are often so badly cast, the minis themselves often have a lot of character!

How do you sculpt saddles ? Do you add a blog of Greenstuff and then press the mini into it before sculpting details? I have a bunch of metal cavarly models from GB and Footsore and non of the riders seem to really sit properly on their horses... >:(

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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #399 on: March 18, 2022, 05:01:34 PM »
Know what you mean.It's really annoying when the riders don't fit !

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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #400 on: March 18, 2022, 10:50:11 PM »
It's a shame that the Gripping Beast minis are often so badly cast, the minis themselves often have a lot of character!

How do you sculpt saddles ? Do you add a blog of Greenstuff and then press the mini into it before sculpting details? I have a bunch of metal cavarly models from GB and Footsore and non of the riders seem to really sit properly on their horses... >:(

Gripping Beast has been around for almost 30 years, so many of its metal minis were originally sculpted decades ago.  Also, if you compare the popularity and price point of historicals vs modern "main stream" manufacturers (e.g., GW, Privateer Press, Wyrd, Corvus Bell, etc) my guess is that Gripping Beast and other 'old school' historical manufactures (e.g., Old Glory, Essex, Perry miniatures) don't make much money, thus they can't afford to replace old molds and/or upgrade their manufacturing technology.  So, while I often gripe about the quality of these manufacturers' products,  I understand the underlying causes.


If the rider's legs are too wide apart or the model simply doesn't sit correctly on its mount, there are a number of ways to make adjustments:  (1) you can carefully bend the legs together, (2) use a hobby knife or rotary tool to reshape the mount's back or the U-shape formed by the inside of the rider's legs, (3) glue the model to the mount's back (or stick it to he seat with greenstuff) and then use greenstuff to fill any gaps, or (4) use greenstuff to augment or add a saddle or saddle blanket.

When I make saddle or saddle blanket, I will begin by roughing out the shape and smoothing out the surface, using my fingers, metal sculpting tools, and clay shapers.  If it's just a saddle blanket, I will essentially look like a rectangle draped over the mounts' back.  Next, I give the greenstuff 15-20 minutes to cure.  This will give it time harden up slightly and become less sticky.  Next, I apply a water to the greenstuff blanket, dip the bottom half of the rider in water, and then seat the rider on the mount and gently push it into the greenstuff.  Once I'm satisfied with how the rider is sitting, I will remove the rider. The curing and the water should prevent the rider from sticking to the greenstuff. Then, using my sculpting tools and shapers, I will smooth out those areas where the GS bulged or became misshapen when I seated the model.  Finally, clean up the shape of the blanket's edges and I sculpt any details into the blanket, such as borders or fringe.

Once the greenstuff is fully cured, I reseat the rider. When GS cures it can slightly expand in some areas and contract in others, so the seat may not be quite right. if this is the case, you can use a hobby knife with a new blade to carefully shave down parts of the saddle until the rider sits just right.

If you closely examine the saddle blanket picture below, you can see the discolored areas where I used a hobby knife to make small adjustments to accommodate the rider's seat and legs.




Below are before/after photos are from my SAGA Moors & Mutatawwi'a thread. They are examples of using greenstuff to fill gaps. If the model's armor or tunic touches the saddle, you can fill the gap and cover up the 'fill' by using greenstuff to extend the armor or tunic.





« Last Edit: March 18, 2022, 11:53:32 PM by Koyote »

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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #401 on: March 19, 2022, 10:14:44 AM »
Very smart putty work Koyote  8) 8) 8)

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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #402 on: March 28, 2022, 12:04:09 AM »
:)




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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #403 on: March 28, 2022, 06:12:36 AM »
Another one!  :o Respect!
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Re: Koyote's SAGA Britons, Irish, & Other Stuff
« Reply #404 on: March 28, 2022, 06:37:54 AM »
+1 Respect!

 

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