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nic-e:
On the same day we say goodbye to spartan games we can also say goodbye to tor ,makers of Relics.

Bad omens afoot. :/

Statement date: Friday 25th August 2017.
Tor Gaming was started back in 2010 with the intention to product the tabletop wargame Relics and with it, bring some originality to your gaming table. We tried to create a world that was distinctly different to what was already being presented from several fronts, and I like to think we managed in this task.
Unfortunately, the last few years have been a difficult trading time for Tor Gaming. Running a business in a niche market is never easy but the gaming industry has become very crowded in the last few years for a number of reasons. As such, I have made the difficult decision to close Tor Gaming and sell off the Relics IP and product range.
The reasons for Tor Gaming closing are many faceted but as I mention above the gaming market is a much more crowded than it was when I started out. The arrival of crowdfunding platforms certainly shook up the industry and made it even easier for new companies to appear and vie for the limited funds our customers have to spend in this hobby of ours. I have made use of them a number of times for Relics and whilst they are good for raising funds I have found each time I ran a project I had a nasty taste in my mouth afterwards.
Coupled with the fact that the traditional ‘distribution model’ of selling product to end users through retailers is a difficult task in this industry as retailers have only so much shelf space and as such are less inclined try out every range that comes along makes continuing to trade in this industry as a producer is difficult.
Over the last couple of years we have seen a steady decline in sales and as such Tor Gaming no longer has the resources to spend on the marketing and advertising required to make our voice heard over all the other voices in this industry. This has ramifications on our ability to develop and produce new products to support the Relics line. We could continue by making use of more crowdfunding projects and moving away from the more traditional ‘distribution model’ for selling but I feel that would be the wrong decision as I am not happy putting the financial risk on to the shoulders of our customers.
It’s been a fun journey but as with all journeys, there has to be an end. For Tor Gaming, that end is here. The journey has been fun and exciting, even frustrating at times. But along the way we have met some great people in this hobby and I am proud to call many of them friends now!
Enquiries
If you wish to contact us about this closure, or you are interested in purchasing the Relics product package and Intellectual property, we invite you to contact us on contact@torgaming.co.uk

https://torgaming.co.uk/2017/08/25/tor-gaming-closing-doors/?fref=gc

nic-e:

--- Quote from: Bezzo on August 25, 2017, 08:29:04 PM ---We wargamers love to strut our stuff and parade our toys, in which we have invested so much time and effort. To say we will suddenly abandon our collections and become minimalist with a few figures in each genre is rather odd? I have little doubt I will receive a vociferous and aggressive rebuttal. lol

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Well speaking as a 22 year old graduate, I agree with scurv. I don't have the money,space or time to dedicate myself to a huge army. I can't afford a home with a gaming room, So anything I want to play has to be done an an IKEA coffee table.
The younger generation of gamers don't have the job security or disposable income to engage with the hobby in the way the older generation does, So more expensive/bigger investment games are going to fall behind the skirmish systems and smaller scale games.
Niche systems like Relics are also going to have to compete with bigger companies as they try to muscle in on the smaller games market. I could buy into relics, Or I could buy into Age of sigmar skirmish which has 100's more players near me.

nic-e:

--- Quote from: Bezzo on August 25, 2017, 09:21:54 PM ---And it begins.

Please cite any reference I made to "huge army"?

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did I say you did? I was making a general point in which i agreed with scurv and gave my opinion on why the gaming market might struggle as more people shift towards smaller games.
Do you have to defend yourself on the internet alot Bezzo?

Lowtardog:
Companies go bust all the time, I have bought from both in the past but as a butterfly I move on unless they command attention, whether big games or small.

Plastic minis will I think enable large gaming armies cheaper to build than ever before and certainly cheaper than a lot of niche games and some of the board games around these days too. I think with gaming you spend what you can and as you have ups and downs in life, career your hobbies and disposable cash change as do tastes in gaming. Large armies I have done many in the past but with the variety out there don`t dedicate the time to one period for months preferring to flit from one to another.


Mick_in_Switzerland:
Within the past two days, Steel Fist have announced that they are for sale and Thor Gaming and Spartan Games have announced that they are closing.  
AS consumers, we are spoiled for choice.  Many people are suffering by trying to cater for the fickle trends of gamers.  

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