VSF Inspiration

[Chairface]

While I agree that the Black Dossier was not as good, it had some good moments. Of notable enjoyment was  the LoEG/Jeeves and Wooster/Chuthulu short story.

[Malamute]

It was copyright on some of the characters.

The first two are great but "Black Dossier" is everything that is bad about Moore. I sold my copy the day I bought it.

Shame it's not as good as the first two, then.

Am I the only one that was disappointed with volume 2 then?

I loved the War of the Worlds background, but the talking Rupert the Bear got me and the fact that the League fell apart at the end. I would have liked at least one more adventure before they broke up.
Although its not as if they actually do much in the books anyways
This new chapter looks interesting at least its a period piece and not that Black Dossier gastliness, but I understand the adventure is a three parter and spans the last 100 years, so we are back off to the 1950's for the next adventure

[JollyBob]

I actually enjoyed the Black Dossier. I did find the broken narrative confusing at times, but it is one of those things that gets better with repeated reads. Possibly Moore tried to cram too much in for it the story to flow as smoothly as in previous volumes. 

The only thing I didn't like about Volume 2 was the way Griffin was killed. I can understand Hyde wanting to make him suffer for betraying the whole world, but bumming him to death? 

[Malamute]

The only thing I didn't like about Volume 2 was the way Griffin was killed. I can understand Hyde wanting to make him suffer for betraying the whole world, but bumming him to death? 

 

Death  by Umbongo

[JollyBob]

Only if Umbongo is a southern slang word for massive mutant manpart. (Oooh, I am an alliterative Bob today!) 

Seriously though, we already knew hyde was insanely dangerous. It didn't bring anything to the plot to have him do that. It is suggested (as far as I remember) that he sacrifices himself afterwards to redeem himself in Mina's eyes, but when Nemo discovers what he's done, he doesn't give a crap.

I just found that whole bit a little unnecessary. 

[Malamute]

Only if Umbongo is a southern slang word for massive mutant manpart. (Oooh, I am an alliterative Bob today!) 

No its a silly schoolboy joke about bum sex. Where the missionary/explorer is captured by some tribesmen and is sentenced to Umbongo or death, He enqiures of the natives what is Umbongo and they tell him its bum fun. He choses death only to find its death by Umbongo.

Its hugely funny when you are twelve,come to think of it, I still find it amusing

Umbongo was also a fruit drink that was sold and marketed for children back  in the 1980s(?). I can still remember the advert music ..."Umbongo, Umbongo, they drink it in the Congo...

Anyway, apologies for hijacking the thread and turning it into a discussion about Sodomy

[JollyBob]

Ah, a variation on the "Death by Mau Mau" joke made famous by (coinidentally) the League of Gentlemen TV series.  I get it now.

And yes, very sorry, carry on as you were. Nothing to see here, certainly nothing fruity and weird.

[myincubliss]

The only thing I didn't like about Volume 2 was the way Griffin was killed. I can understand Hyde wanting to make him suffer for betraying the whole world, but bumming him to death? 

Did you not enjoy the reveal, as they're sat down to dinner and the blood that's everywhere starts to become visible? Or the depths of sadness in Hyde, both when he finds out what Griffin tried to do to Mina and at the very end?

[JollyBob]

Yeah, sure, I got all that, I just thought it was a bit heavy handed for Moore and didn't really fit.

I'm sure that there are many people who thought it was entirely appropriate and in keeping with what we knew of Hyde as a character.It's probably my own fear of aggressive spelunking being brought to the fore. 

[Dewbakuk]

Going purely from long term memory retrieval isn't the reason Hyde kills protitutes because Jekyll is represing the fact he's gay? Given the fact that Hyde is entirely amoral, it's not entirely unexpected, extremely unpleasant, but then.... it's Hyde.


Edit: I would like to point out that I in no way endorse aggressive "spelunking"

[JollyBob]

Yeah, that does make sense, and I recall something about that being alluded to as well.

Like I said, it just made me not uncomfortable exactly, but it felt at odds with the rest of the story. Although that was probably the point of it, really. Job done, I suppose.

There, that's sorted, cup of tea anyone? 

[Malamute]

Yeah, that does make sense, and I recall something about that being alluded to as well.

Like I said, it just made me not uncomfortable exactly, but it felt at odds with the rest of the story. Although that was probably the point of it, really. Job done, I suppose.

There, that's sorted, cup of tea anyone? 

Shouldn't that be more tea Vicar?

[Svennn]

And would you like a cream puff with that?

[Malamute]

And would you like a cream puff with that?

Said the actress to the Bishop whilst stirring her tea with her other hand...

[Admiral Benbow]

All you ever want to know about LoeG, why the Black Dossier is not Volume 3, and what's coming up in real Vol.3, can be found here:

http://www.comp.dit.ie/dgordon/League/loeg0008.html