Irregular cavalry for TYW?

[Parrot]

Would the Hungarian Hussars sold by The Assault Group under their Renaissance section be from the thirty years war time or would they have been from an earlier century?  I am looking at the Croats and Cossacks, and wonder about the Hungarians.

[Codsticker]

My impression is they would cover the late 16th century  to the early part of the 30 years war.

[Stecal]

One of the problems with TAG.  He often doesn't exactly describe the exact date range and source of his models.  Its often hard to figure out what is Italian Wars and what is TYW.  I believe those Hungarians are actually late 15th - early 16th C, so Hunyadi and Mohacs in 1526.

[Codsticker]

One of the problems with TAG.  He often doesn't exactly describe the exact date range and source of his models.  Its often hard to figure out what is Italian Wars and what is TYW.  I believe those Hungarians are actually late 15th - early 16th C, so Hunyadi and Mohacs in 1526.

Yes, you are probably right. I thought I read somewhere that the eastern states were quite conservative and that often fashion clung on longer there than elsewhere.

[huevans]

Go with the Croats. They would be perfect for the period.

[Metternich]

I second Huevans regarding the Hungarians.  If you want to mix it up a little, TAG's "Polish Cossack Cavalry" are also acceptable, particularly as Lisowski Cossacks  (who did fight in the 30 Yrs War on the Imperial side.  Note also that Poles often designated as "Cossack" units whose members were actually Polish or Lithuanian, indicating that their equipment was "Cossack" or lighter than that of Polish Lancers - Polish Cossacks were generally minor squires, while Lancers were rich landowners and their retainers.  The Poles referred to true Cossacks as Zaporozhian Cossacks, with "Registered Cossacks" being units in the Polish military whose members were granted certain civil righrs:  personal freedom (i.e. they were not serfs, like most Ukranians), exemption from many taxes and duties, and the right to receive wages for their military service).   Below are some illustrations of Eastern troops in the 30 yrs War timeframe which I hope you may find useful. 
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/81/be/42/81be4207ec8b8f4cf09daa2c0a3af388--renaissance-thirty-years-war.jpg   Croat cavalrymen

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/35/d5/52/35d55256c4ca41a550c8cd87cd533785.jpg  Croat cavalry

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/322077810832915976  Cossack (yes, some still carried bows), Polish hussar, Hungarian hussar 

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/394768723563651110  Polish Cossack (upper left, fellow in blue coat carrying his cap and war hammer, gesturing with right hand)

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/263742121906985347   Croat dragoon

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/31/ee/12/31ee129586a487c821603203cf7f015c.jpg Croatian Arquebusier (medium cavalry - becoming the standard in 30 Yrs War)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/35/d5/52/35d55256c4ca41a550c8cd87cd533785.jpg  Croatian Arquebusier

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9d/e3/16/9de316dab5b6dd16cb7a956c270b1806.jpg   Croat cavalryman kneeling, Hungarian irregular infantryman on right (Imperial scout/rifleman in green)

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/322077810836745933  Wallachian

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/493355334165534759 Croatian dragoon

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/263742121906985456  Croatian light lancer

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/263742121906985379  Croatian noble cavalryman

[Parrot]

Thank you for the advice, I have just a few more questions about the TAG Cossacks and Poles.

What are "Lithuanian Tatars"?  Just another word for Cossacks?

Would the regular Cossack range also serve well as "registered cossacks"?  Or was there a visible difference between them?  Were registered cossacks equipped by the state at all with anything resembling a uniform look or armament?

I think I shall order some Croats from TAG, but I might add some cossacks too.

How do various companies fit together size wise?  Are TAG figures compatible with Redoubt, Essex and other polish ranges?

[Griefbringer]

What are "Lithuanian Tatars"?  Just another word for Cossacks?

They would be Tatars (a Turkic people) who had settled within the borders of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth at some point in history.

[huevans]

Thank you for the advice, I have just a few more questions about the TAG Cossacks and Poles.

What are "Lithuanian Tatars"?  Just another word for Cossacks?

Would the regular Cossack range also serve well as "registered cossacks"?  Or was there a visible difference between them?  Were registered cossacks equipped by the state at all with anything resembling a uniform look or armament?

I think I shall order some Croats from TAG, but I might add some cossacks too.

How do various companies fit together size wise?  Are TAG figures compatible with Redoubt, Essex and other polish ranges?

Bear in mind that there was no political entity known as Ukraine then. It was all Poland. So Ukrainian squires able to mount, equip and ride to war as cossacks would look and dress the same as Polish cossacks.

So for cossack cavalry, you could use the Polish cossacks. The poor cossacks would serve as infantry. Contrary to later times, cossacks in the 1600's were well known as infantry.

They would not be uniformed.

[Griefbringer]

So for cossack cavalry, you could use the Polish cossacks. The poor cossacks would serve as infantry.

As regards Cossacks on foot, TAG seems to make a small range of such figures in 28 mm.

However, my impression is that such Cossacks would have mainly been found around their home regions, while the original interest in this thread seems to be on forces that fought as mercenary cavalry in TYW (such as Croats and Tatars).

[Kadrinazi]

such as Croats and Tatars

Tatars weren't fighting in TYW.