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Author Topic: (COMMERCIAL) Samurai Village buildings  (Read 7129 times)

Offline Papierschnitzel

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2018, 07:23:31 AM »
Your buildings are very cool.
Really like what you have done.
Am very interested in joining your group
and purchasing some.

Thanks man, you are most welcome :) This is just the start. I have a couple more generic buildings in the pipeline for a little more variety and then maybe some special buildings like the village Samurai house, tea house etc. If there is enough interest I also want to do a couple of town buildings in the machiya style.

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2018, 10:05:13 PM »
After looking over your web site, I became a member.
Am excited to see what you come up with.
Semper Fi, Mac

Offline Papierschnitzel

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2018, 07:07:26 AM »
Here's a little diorama with paper figures (28mm scale): Attack of the Oni!



Figures are by David Okum (okumarts), Jess Jennings (TrashMobMinis) and Marshall Short (printableHeroes).

Offline DintheDin

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2018, 08:49:38 AM »
Nice and stylish! Cheers!
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates. – Mark Twain, Life on the Mississippi

Offline Yuber Okami

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2018, 05:56:24 PM »
I get that your buildings are "unfoldable", that is, that you can fold and use them, then make them flat again for easy storage. If that's so, how can I become a patron? :)

Offline Papierschnitzel

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2018, 08:06:44 PM »
I get that your buildings are "unfoldable", that is, that you can fold and use them, then make them flat again for easy storage. If that's so, how can I become a patron? :)

Thank you Okami, yes you can build the buildings so you can unfold them. So they are quite foldable ... or unfoldable that way  :D

I have added my channels including Patreon to my signature here. You can join directly on the Patreon page. If you have questions, pm me here or contact me on the other sites.

Chris

Offline Yuber Okami

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2018, 02:41:40 PM »
Say hello to your new patron :)

Offline Papierschnitzel

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2018, 01:44:56 PM »
Say hello to your new patron :)

Hello ... and thank you  :)

So you are in the loop then, but for the others I want to share where I am in the process of the next stage. This village set will include different buildings, often found in the mountains in villages and even forts. They will come with texture variations but my vision is the "all wood panel" version.

This is a combo of the larger and smaller building (the L-shaped version to warp around the larger one) and the HD water wheel ... to turn it into a water mill. There will be a simpler wheel version too, but I just love this one.



If you are interested in more details, check out my Patreon. The posts and pics are all free, so no danger  :D

I hope to have a multi buildings preview soon!

Offline Papierschnitzel

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2018, 08:13:32 AM »
Here is the simple version of the water wheel. Much faster to build but look almost as nice as the detailed one, no?



And here is a little sneak peek pic for the new buildings! Ninja are attacking the village, thinking they only have to deal with the warrior monk. Unaware are they of the Samurai preparing in hiding!



Need to start on working on the grass ground tiles, so I can spice up the yellow ground!

Offline Golgotha

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2018, 08:46:24 PM »
Fantastic when will these be available for purchase on wargames vault?

Offline Papierschnitzel

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2018, 01:07:09 PM »
Fantastic when will these be available for purchase on wargames vault?

The first set beginning of next month. It's always one month after the Patreon early release.

Offline Papierschnitzel

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2018, 07:21:10 AM »
I went crazy combining the L-shaped building with the larger one. Trying out all combinations  :D

Here is one version ...


... more on my Patreon page.

These combinations don't look that Japanese to me, but it was fun trying out what is possible!

Offline Vagabond

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2018, 11:35:51 AM »
These are looking excellent.

I use quite a lot of paper scenery, mainly because the printing is more realistic than my painting, but the big issue I have are the roofs because they do tend to look flat no matter how good the print texture is.
 
I've used teddy bear fur and towel for thatch on top of paper walls and that looks ok, and I've used commercial laser cut shingles and painted them which also looks ok. Both ways give me quite a good 3D roof and hide the flatness of the walls of a building but involve quite a lot more work.

It's the same as your idea with the water wheel, one looks much better than the other but for additional work.

I wondered if you had given any thought to trying to get a 3D printed roof. For example with the thatch you have 3 panels of thatch, if each panel was printed individually and was a little bigger so it could be wrapped around a card former, with the lower part of the panel printed to represent the ends of the thatching material rather than the length of it. That way you end up with 3 pieces of thatch per side and then glue them onto a roof so that there is 3D from the card levels and 3D effect from the printing.

You could do the same thing with the shingle roof but the problem is that none of the shingles are even along the bottom edge and need cutting with a scalpel to get the shape and then the edges colouring. They then need overlapping as a strip to get the right effect and the individual shingle print would need to be longer to compensate for the physical overlapping.

This may be a lot more work than you envisage people taking when they buy paper buildings as it is usually seen as a quick easy and cheap way of creating scenery, but I have seen excellent examples that rival the best in painted 3D models.

Sorry for the long post hope you can make some sense out of it and as I said these are excellent.

Offline Papierschnitzel

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2018, 08:19:28 PM »
These are all great ideas and I have thought about them also. The majority of gamers I know prefer the quick to the detailed build. But as I have layered the roof (both thatched and wood shingles) texturing wise, I could easily make separate cutout parts. If you print them on heavy cardboard with overlap you would get the effect you are talking about. I wonder how many would want such a building pattern?

Another way to add 3D detail is to double up parts. For the walls I would print just the framework layer on thicker cardboard and glue that over the regular wall, to make the framework pop out.

Here I have doubled (actually tripled) up the top roof details to make it look more like the real thing.




Offline Vagabond

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Re: Samurai Village buildings
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2018, 07:28:02 PM »
I think you are probably right in your assessment of what gamers using printed scenery want, that is something quick and cheap, but maybe if they had a reasonably easy and quick alternative that would produce something that rivaled a well painted resin casting building they would go for it.
This is the Minka in Kew Gardens London.


As you can see apart from the apex of the roof there is little real texture or difference in depth on any of the building surface or roof thatch, especially taking scale into account.

We "know" it's there even if it actually isn't. Our mind tells us it is there even if our eyes don't.

You can print wood, or mud more realistically than I can paint it, so somehow there has to be the opportunity to overcome the prejudice against what we know something is like, when in actual fact it's not.
The only other point is that I presume the thatch was done by modern thatcher's and they may not be replicating 3/400 year old Japanese practice.

I'm not saying anything you don't already know I just wonder if there is some way to move on to another level with printed buildings that you could benefit from.

Having said all that, please don't think that I am criticizing what you are doing because I think it's excellent.
Cheers

 

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