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Offline Knightofspades

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Re: Solo
« Reply #75 on: April 07, 2018, 03:41:45 PM »
Actually the toys are doing really badly. Kids prefer video games these days. And the adult collectors are not showing up to buy the last Jedi toys in the numbers they used to. My advice is to pick up some Last Jedi figures if you are into collecting. They might become somewhat rare in time.

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Re: Solo
« Reply #76 on: April 07, 2018, 03:56:35 PM »
Actually the toys are doing really badly. Kids prefer video games these days. And the adult collectors are not showing up to buy the last Jedi toys in the numbers they used to. My advice is to pick up some Last Jedi figures if you are into collecting. They might become somewhat rare in time.

There's a few theories that star wars toys have NEVER sold as well as people think, and that the reason they flood shelves is that star wars is assosciated with film toys because of the way the first film initially kicked off the craze.

When i was a kid i had HUNDREDS of star wars toys. you know why? Because in 2002 i could walk into a little poundshop in loughborough and walk out with ten brand new figures for £1 because they were over produced to the point of becoming worthless. I still have a draw in young anakins somewhere...
the toys hold no value ,the collectors don't want them because they aren't good quality and they've been over produced to the point that none of them are worth buying. The way toys are marketed means nothing save for misprints or weird pre release figures will be worth anything in the future.
 And they cost too much for kids to actually buy! the companies hold back stock of the main characters to increase demand, But in the mean time no child is going to walk into a shop and say "OH BOY, GENERAL HUX! I want to spend my saved pocket money on a £15 figure of that guy!"

So who is the market for them? Mostly parents around christmas, But after that they just languish on shelves. I can easily see them all being shipped back and recarded from film to film.
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Re: Solo
« Reply #77 on: April 07, 2018, 07:13:28 PM »
To be fair, most of the figures that are worth good money from the original run of figures tended to be factory misprints or colour variations. There are some genuinely rare ones that were produced but only in very small numbers, otherwise, unless they are in packets, most of your original star wars figures are still only worth a couple of whatever currency still.
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Re: Solo
« Reply #78 on: April 07, 2018, 09:28:30 PM »
I think the whole Kenner Star Wars phenomenon was an anomaly that no one expected and that toy companies have tried to replicate ever since. The current offering of toys is probably ‘about right’ but I also agree that the faster kids grow up these days means playing with figures probably only has a small window of opportunity to get people hooked.

I used to love my old Kenner figs and didn’t care who ‘stood in’ for who! My Han Solo was always a ROTJ Luke  lol I even used to freeze him inside a glass of water and spend ages melting him out.

Sick of seeing those ‘Constable Zuvio’ figures from Episode 7 in the local B&M  lol

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Re: Solo
« Reply #79 on: April 07, 2018, 10:08:29 PM »


Sick of seeing those ‘Constable Zuvio’ figures from Episode 7 in the local B&M  lol

Buy em all, they could be the next pruneface!  lol

Offline cdm

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Re: Solo
« Reply #80 on: April 08, 2018, 03:05:15 AM »
To stay on the main topic:

I doubt I will like this movie, but will watch it just the same. I don't watch much of the new release SW movies either, they have no staying power for repeat viewing.

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From my perspective the toys are a mess because they have no clue what they're trying to sell and to whom. Australian perspective, overseas will vary.

There is not a single B&M store within 1.5hrs drive of me selling ANYTHING from the latest Wave 2 Hasbro releases. I have the same expectation for the upcoming Solo releases. I have to get my stuff from specialist e-tailers, and even Australian e-tailers are very thin on the ground with some limited stock on certain items.

Hasbro has a habit of releasing figures that didn't make the movies.
Cases in point:
First Order Snowspeeder - cool and useful at least.
Finn speeder vehicle
Constable Zuvio
Moroff (From the Rogue 1 Scarif 2 pack)

Cardboard characters that appeared for less than 2 seconds and have no bearing on anything:
Sarco Plankk
PZ-4CO
Hassk thug
Pao (Rogue 1) - though cool of no real part in the movie
Bistan - though cool of no real part in the movie
Sidon Itano and Quiggold - though cool of no real part in the movie

Stormtroopers from Rogue1 and TFA disappeared promptly, anything white armour always vanishes. The fact that TFA was flogging off figures not even in the movie, and in high numbers tells me they aren't aware of what is selling specifically. For sure, vast numbers of Roses, and the quirky figs from TFA are still on the shelves at bargain prices. It's hardly surprising no one wants them. In the reverse, numbers of other figures were never available locally. Figures like Galen, Raddus, Sefla, Krennic and a few others from R1. Try to pick up the Vader/Probe Bot two pack is tough and expensive, but the Rathtar pack is all over the place at cheap prices if you look.

They released a Scarif trooper pack with the big white thing that wasn't even in the movie, but try and pick up a single Scarif shore trooper pack (apparently they did those, they just never turned up here) and you pay for it. I can now buy the Scarif 2 pack cheaper than buying a single trooper if i can find one. I have 4 of those big white things, no idea what I'll do with them. At least now I do have some Scarif shore troopers.

No one locally stocked some of the bigger items. The A-Wing & the Canto Bight speeder were available only from Toys R Us if you go in store. Order on line and it's a blind bag purchase with the two, why would you blind bag something that big? Luckily for me one of the local stores eventually (about 3 months after initial release) picked up a small stock of Kylo. I made a 3hr trip back at first release to go to the nearest Toys R Us to make sure I got an A-Wing, Kylo ship, and Vader/Probe bot 2 pack, or else I would have missed out. As a customer, that's pretty sad.

How many more versions of Rey, Poe & Luke in the same outfit do we need? Watch out Solo movie, they're releasing another Luke in robe along with K-2SO. At least the next release has 2 sets of new white armour in it. Bet they sell out instantly.

If you want to recreate scenes from the movies, you can't, because there are huge gaps in the obvious characters that could sell.

Want a R1 Scarif rebel force? You can get everyone except grunts. It would have been nice if they did say a 4 pack of grunt troopers, with a 4 pack of opposing Shore troopers, or the one R1 4 pack they released didn't have the same damn figure of Jyn in it that you buy singly and instead had something different.

Why can't there be generic First order officers and rebels. Want to recreate the Crait battle, can't, but you can buy a crait speeder, but no rebel troopers who manned the trenches and who mysteriously never made it back inside to the Falcon. You can buy a Crait 4 pack that has Rey again in that same damn outfit you could have bought several times in earlier releases and of course a Rose you only need one of ever, if at all.  The plus side for the pack is the First Order gunner and snow trooper in a grey outfit. The pack would have been so much better if it ditched the two characters and replaced them with 2 generic rebels. It would have sold so well because you'd buy multiples. Why buy multiples of Rey and Rose? Waste, total waste.

My perspective is they still do not know who they're selling to. It should be to people who want to fire their imagination and play with the toys, not people who want to buy a Rey in a purple packed set and a Rey in a green misprint packed set.  Check out the new Vintage Collection previews, another Rey in the same damn outfit, Kylo too and Jyn. At least there is another first order trooper, exactly the same as the rest. The only positive is the first appearance of Snokes and classic Hoth rebel trooper which I am sure will sell out fast.

I also believe they slightly burnt them selves with pricing for the TFA releases expecting money just because it's Star Wars, and the scalpers and ebay guys on top of that over priced things to hell. I don't believe the figures are worth the price they're asking, and a drop in price would be very helpful as well. Depending on the retailer, I've seen markups as high as 200%. If the price dropped on useful figures, they'd shift alot better and become more widely bought and played with. The figures that are also 'rare' being scalp priced excessively out of the box is also pretty sad.

They accidentally hit on a good thing, and still have no idea what it is they hit on. As a customer of the franchise, it frustrates the hell out of me.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2018, 03:06:54 AM by cdm »

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Re: Solo
« Reply #81 on: April 09, 2018, 07:50:22 AM »
New trailer has landed and I'm liking it even more  :D



It would appear that the Falcon does get won from Lando but going by previous trailers it might not actually happen that way  lol
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Re: Solo - New trailer page six
« Reply #82 on: April 09, 2018, 07:57:51 AM »
Looking good!

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Re: Solo - New trailer page six
« Reply #83 on: April 09, 2018, 08:06:54 AM »
It does  :)

Bandai have already got a 1/144 Falcon from the film coming out soon  8)

http://bandai-hobby.net/sw/jp/products/millenniumfalcon_landocalrissian.html

Offline Paul Hicks

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Re: Solo - New trailer page six
« Reply #84 on: April 09, 2018, 08:41:17 AM »
Like the presumed way the narrative is going, by the trailer. A criminal gang vs Criminal gang. not just a fight vs the Emprire.

Offline beefcake

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Re: Solo - New trailer page six
« Reply #85 on: April 09, 2018, 08:43:47 AM »
That looks a whole lot better than the first trailer. And I also like the idea of it not focusing on the empire (although it may still do that)


Offline Ultravanillasmurf

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Re: Solo - New trailer page six
« Reply #86 on: April 09, 2018, 09:22:52 AM »
Interesting.

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Re: Solo - New trailer page six
« Reply #87 on: April 09, 2018, 10:33:27 AM »
Well, that looks bloody good!
 :-* :-*

In fact, that trailer is already better than The Last Pile of Cack Jedi and it is only a couple of minutes long.
 :D


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Re: Solo - New trailer page six
« Reply #88 on: April 09, 2018, 11:44:01 AM »
That guy is quite convincing when in doubt who shot first...  lol

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Re: Solo - New trailer page six
« Reply #89 on: April 09, 2018, 01:36:55 PM »
Looks good, though it's another trailer which shows probably a bit too much. 
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