[Portuguese in India] Goa 1510 WIP (Update August 2021)

[von Lucky]

Oh lord, I have only taken in the pictures on this page and I'm already drunk. Going to consume the rest of the thread now.

SO BEAUTIFEWL. Hic.

[gamer Mac]

WOW stunning building
The details are amazing

[Hu Rhu]

Absolutely amazing building. 

[fred]

What an amazing set of buildings - such elegant and clean builds. They hardly need painting (well apart from the calendar floors...)

You mention Irregular Wars as possible rules, and while I am a big fan of these rules they are really for small battles using mutlibased figures - I'm not sure they would really work great in such a complex urban environment. I'm envisaging some rules which allow heroic characters to run around (and up) the buildings fighting each other, rather than a unit based combat system.

[FifteensAway]

Haven't checked in for a while - and I missed a thing or two, I did.  Superlatives fail here.  Though I must say you will need some proper figures for your 'booty call' portion of your games - hope someone makes appropriate figures, a nautch party seems quite appropriate given the setting.  That palace - and those fantastic balusters - and the fine window 'lacing' are truly startling to see in such a model. 

One essential question, are you waiting to paint all the buildings in one go?  Really look forward to seeing these buildings when painted. 

And now the less essential but perhaps insanity inducing question - any plans to do the Taj Mahal?  (and, yes, I know it is not in Goa for those who are going to try and spoil my fun!)  If there is modeler who can pull it off, I nominate Byblos for the head of the class! 

[Leapsnbounds]

I wish you great success in the upcoming year.  This is the most impressive project I have seen.  I am looking forward to seeing the project completed and hopefully one day sacking it.

[Byblos]

I am looking forward to seeing the project completed and hopefully one day sacking it.

You will be welcome 

[miltiades]

I cant find the right words to describe my impression of what I saw. I need something more than "awsome" !

[has.been]

Love what you have done, keep it up.

[Byblos]

You mention Irregular Wars as possible rules, and while I am a big fan of these rules they are really for small battles using mutlibased figures - I'm not sure they would really work great in such a complex urban environment. I'm envisaging some rules which allow heroic characters to run around (and up) the buildings fighting each other, rather than a unit based combat system.

Hi !

The rules problem is indeed a thorny problem, and I haven't solved it yet!

Nevertheless I make a few remarks:

- I would also like to be able to use these figurines, especially Bijapur's troops, to form a Mughal or Moorish Indian or even Hindu army, so I will prefer the multibased system!

- I make sure that the width of the streets, and the interiors of the buildings allow at least to place a base of 5X5 cm inside (and even 6 X 6 cm)

In short, I would really like to be able to keep a base system with several miniatures with a dimension of 5 or 6 cm per side.

What I appreciated in Irregular Wars is that it is a simple system but not simplistic.

It uses an event card system to modify the basic conditions of the scenario played, I will keep this system so that even during the game, events occur and modify the conditions of combat.

The one base = one unit system can prove to be very useful in this context of siege and urban combat because it allows the organization of the army to be better articulated, it introduces more flexibility.

And on a large classic table (2.4 mx 1.8 m) you can place up to 3 commandments for each protagonist: as the Portuguese will be few (I table on a large hundred figs divided into 3 commandments)

3 commands, this will allow me to propose 3 command bases per army, which will give great importance to at least 3 "heroes".

For Bijapur troops I would need between 400 and ... 2000 miniatures! It will be difficult so I imagined 2 things:

1 °) The Hindu archers are very numerous, but totally ineffective in melee, so I will not materialize them on the table, they will simply provide support in the form of dice rolls in ranged combat. Once the melee troops of their command destroyed or on the run, these archers will also be automatically eliminated (they flee or are massacred).

and 2 °) I will use an assault wave system! So, instead of having to buy / paint / put on my shelves between 400 and 2000 miniatures, I would have, let's say, only 200! The waves of assault will follow one another: once a command is eliminated, it can return to the table again (unlike the Portuguese who will permanently lose the eliminated units)!

Am I not great !? 

There is still a lot of work for the project to take shape, and I would also like to imagine a campaign system. In 2020, I will notably dissect my documentation, and I hope to even draw a small booklet from all this research!

In short, to be continued!

[DintheDin]

I follow your progress with great interest and I wish you a happy New Year full of creativity and imagination!
Cheers!

[Byblos]

One essential question, are you waiting to paint all the buildings in one go?  Really look forward to seeing these buildings when painted. 

And now the less essential but perhaps insanity inducing question - any plans to do the Taj Mahal?  (and, yes, I know it is not in Goa for those who are going to try and spoil my fun!)  If there is modeler who can pull it off, I nominate Byblos for the head of the class!

Hi !

No I'm not going to paint them all once, that would be too much work! And I'm going to start painting work this year, especially since I still don't know how to proceed with the colors used, I'm reflecting on all of this ...

For the Taj mahal no it is not planned: my project does not take place in this region, nor at the same time! It is already a sufficiently complex project requiring a lot of work so I will "limit myself" to what I would really use in this context: the Portuguese in Kerala and the Bijapur coasts between 1500 and 1515.

On the other hand, in addition to the miniatures and the buildings, it will also be necessary to count with many elements of ground, and ships (One or 2 carracks, 1 or 2 caravels, smaller ships, but also Sambouks and other local ships!) .

And for the miniatures: there are of course infantrymen, a little (not much) cavalry, command bases / heroes, elephants, artillery!

Regarding the buildings, there will be Goa but also at least one farm, the fortress of Panaji (with optional elements allowing it to be used until the 18th century), the fortified watchtower of Banastri ... And, why no, we can even imagine later that I could model the fighting in Kerala (this time in a Hindu context and not Moorish from India) and let's be crazy: the taking of Malacca (the city of Malacca, junks , etc ...)

And I would love to put together a campaign system!

This project, in addition to its exoticism and originality, is also typical of drawer projects: it is a large cabinet with drawers, and there are plenty of drawers to open: one is Bijapur, the other Kerala, another still Malacca, and yet another Hormuz, and I'm not even talking about the city states of East Africa!

I will surely dedicate the 30 or 40 years of life that I should have to it !!

Anyway ... to be continued

[Byblos]

I follow your progress with great interest and I wish you a happy New Year full of creativity and imagination!
Cheers!

Thanks Din, and Thank you all for your kindness and your interest in the project!

[Hupp n at em]

Wow, that scratchbuilding!  Just pure awesome

[Hammers]

A gorgeous build. Absolutely fantastic! What a creative use of beads and trinkets.

Will you join us in this years Build Somehting Contest?