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Offline Grimjack

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The Chaco War
« on: August 08, 2018, 09:19:54 AM »
Does anyone actually game this war and has ideas for miniatures, plus perhaps photographs of their collection?

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Offline Dr DeAth

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Re: The Chaco War
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2018, 09:30:18 AM »
Khurasan Miniatures make some 15mm figures for the period



http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/chacowar.html

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Offline carlos marighela

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Re: The Chaco War
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2018, 10:15:10 AM »
Orinoco has a range in 28mm. No support weapons but shouldn’t prove to difficult to knock up the odd conversion.

http://www.orinoco-miniatures.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=61
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Offline Happy Wanderer

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Re: The Chaco War
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2018, 10:46:08 AM »
It's a very interesting conflict Grimjack - and yes, a Google around will show you that people do game it.

Unfortunately there are not alot of 28mm figures for it and whilst some substitution can be made, ideally it needs Orinoco or another manufacturer to step up with a number of pack codes. I've prodded them and they said it will still 'get done' as they already have greens for their next codes. Another like minded prod wouldn't hurt  ;)

For the military history side of things you need Bruce Farcau’s 1996 The Chaco War: Bolivia and Paraguay, 1932–1935.
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=QyPWEvAPuXoC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

The other go-to book is Zook’s The Conduct of the Chaco War – get it here.
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.110926

However for the military history and wargaming good stuff you must get a hold of Adrian English’s book…The Chaco War which has the excellent gamer’s guff.
https://www.caliverbooks.com/Partizan%20Press/partizan_ChacoWar.shtml

A solid load of links can be found on this page with history/gamer content.
http://ambushedinthealley.blogspot.com/p/chaco.html

This clever chap put together information for platoon level games, specifically Chain of Command, on a thread on the TFL forum.
https://toofatlardies.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=8958&hilit=chaco


So, doable now in 15mm (Khurasan) and doable with a few substitutions for 28mm.

Cheers

Happy W




« Last Edit: August 08, 2018, 10:53:40 AM by Happy Wanderer »

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Re: The Chaco War
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2018, 12:46:27 PM »
Orinoco has a range in 28mm. No support weapons but shouldn’t prove to difficult to knock up the odd conversion.

http://www.orinoco-miniatures.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=61

Be warned: they are somewhat substandard sculpts.

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Re: The Chaco War
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2018, 06:35:11 PM »
I believe that Irregular Miniatures does Chaco War as well.

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Re: The Chaco War
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2018, 08:43:03 AM »
I believe that Irregular Miniatures does Chaco War as well.

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« Last Edit: August 09, 2018, 01:06:10 PM by Hammers »

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: The Chaco War
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2018, 12:58:02 PM »
Ah, Irregular! Figures so uniformly awful they could be anything.

Those Orinoco figures don’t look the best, I must admit but it is the only dedicated range in 28mm. Easy enough to proxy with SCW figures. Empress’ Assault Guards would do for the Bolvians.

Funnily enough, of all the contemporay and near contemporary conflicts in the region, I’ve always thought the Chaco War, whilst the best known, to be the least interesting. The near contemporary, albeit much smaller, Leticia War between Peru and Colombia has much more interesting aspects including amphibious assaults, gunboats, seaplanes and the prospect of naval conflict. The 1941 Peru-Ecuador is even more interesting, a mini blitzkrieg, with parachute drops, dive bombers and mass tank attacks. For reasons that escape me the Chaco War is often, erroneously described as having the first use of tanks on the continent, despite the fact that they were used in combat much earlier in Brazil.

Adrian English is the go to author in English for all three wars, if only for reasons of accessability. Having read his books on Leticia and Ecuador, it’s obvious he relies heavily, perhaps exclusively, on secondary sources and has done little in the way of original research. That said they make useful primers. Another of his works that may prove useful is his Armed Forces of Latin America. It has information on armaments for each country from the early 20th C through to the early 1980s. He makes some odd statements, which do seem to belie an absence of knowledge of broader cultural and historical themes but none the less it’s a handy tome.

Offline Sakura

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Re: The Chaco War
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2018, 06:01:26 PM »
There is another company which makes Chaco War figures in 28mm - Scheltrum Miniatures.
Sholto has a huge range of figures and vehicles but other than the odd Scottish show there is nowhere that you can see them.
Unfortunately for us he has a real job as an architect and at present has little time for new ranges or to showcase the existing ones.
You will see many posts on LAF from people keen to see pictures of the Scheltrum ranges.
I used the Scheltrum Chaco figures to put on displays at several Scottish shows and at Partizan - the year it was held in a tent, whenever that was, 2014 perhaps.  We used Bolt Action rules but had to make the Paraguayans veteran and the Bolivians inexperienced to get the balance right.  The Bolivians were defending a fortin and a motorised column with tank support was attempting to break through to relieve them before their water ran out.
There are some pictures in the LAF Interwar section from me on 7th May 2013.
My own photos of the display are lost somewhere in Photobucket but I could take some more if anyone is interested.