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Offline Sterling Moose

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USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« on: October 01, 2018, 09:46:45 PM »
Saw this on the BBC website today, with reference to online shopping following the United States, Mexico, Canada Agreement just reached:

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The new agreement raises duty-free shopping limits to $100 to enter Mexico and C$150 ($115) to enter Canada without facing import duties - well above the $50 previously allowed in Mexico and C$20 permitted by Canada.

This sweetens cross border shopping for anyone ordering stuff from across the border.
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Offline grant

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2018, 10:18:01 PM »
Hobby models actually have zero duty, anywhere in the world they are made.
So it changes nothing.

The Tax however hasn’t changed. So ...

No change.
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Offline Sterling Moose

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2018, 12:11:18 AM »
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Hobby models actually have zero duty, anywhere in the world they are made.
So it changes nothing.

That depends on the order and the accuracy of the description the sender puts on the CN22.  I have been stung a couple of times. once by Troll and Toad who described the minis as 'gaming supplies'.

Offline grant

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2018, 12:31:03 AM »
That depends on the order and the accuracy of the description the sender puts on the CN22.  I have been stung a couple of times. once by Troll and Toad who described the minis as 'gaming supplies'.

I’ve never had any problems. 25ish years on...

Offline Codsticker

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2018, 07:48:33 AM »
I have only had to pay duties on orders if they are well above 100 dollars. Just a few times.

Offline grant

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2018, 07:59:17 PM »
I have only had to pay duties on orders if they are well above 100 dollars. Just a few times.

You don’t actually pay duty, just tax at whatever province you’re in.

Offline FramFramson

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2018, 09:05:09 PM »
I think we can all agree it's never been very consistent in enforcement...  ::)


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Offline grant

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2018, 09:42:26 PM »
Every time one of these discussions comes up, I find I waste my time trying to tell people what the reality is.   lol

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2018, 03:04:39 AM »
You don’t actually pay duty, just tax at whatever province you’re in.
Doesn't really matter what it is called-  sometimes I have to pay it, sometimes I don't. Furthermore, it doesn't seem to matter if it is labelled "toy soldiers" or "diorama supplies". I once paid tax/duty/WTF-ever on second hand toy soldiers.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2018, 03:06:51 AM by Codsticker »

Offline grant

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2018, 03:27:25 PM »
Doesn't really matter what it is called-  sometimes I have to pay it, sometimes I don't. Furthermore, it doesn't seem to matter if it is labelled "toy soldiers" or "diorama supplies". I once paid tax/duty/WTF-ever on second hand toy soldiers.

You’d pay tax on second hand just as if you had bought them at a store if you ordered online.

There is a distinction between duty and tax. I pay 5% tax, other areas pay 15% tax.

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2018, 04:27:02 PM »
Surely the bigger question is whether this will impact on those maquiladoras in Juarez pumping out cheap miniatures.  Hopefully it will also even up the playing field with those Canadian companies whittling figures out of pine cones.

Let us all pray that it will bring all those jobs back home to decent, clean-cut and god fearing American workers. Make Americans Game Again!
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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2018, 05:07:49 PM »
Doesn't really matter what it is called-  sometimes I have to pay it, sometimes I don't. Furthermore, it doesn't seem to matter if it is labelled "toy soldiers" or "diorama supplies". I once paid tax/duty/WTF-ever on second hand toy soldiers.

I once had the 6mm "tank storage trays" (as described on the customs form) interpreted as "tank tops" (the shirts) by Canada Customs, that made a difference!  Whole process to go through to show these pieces of mdf could not be construed as shirts in any way.

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Offline grant

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2018, 05:48:49 PM »
Surely the bigger question is whether this will impact on those maquiladoras in Juarez pumping out cheap miniatures.  Hopefully it will also even up the playing field with those Canadian companies whittling figures out of pine cones.

Let us all pray that it will bring all those jobs back home to decent, clean-cut and god fearing American workers. Make Americans Game Again!

 lol

Offline FramFramson

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Re: USMCA and it's effects on online shopping
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2018, 07:49:39 PM »
Basically, the rule is that you don't have to pay. Except when you do.