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Author Topic: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's  (Read 47113 times)

Offline marco55

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #225 on: January 01, 2023, 06:21:41 AM »
Picked up this 2 volume set written by a Indian Army officer and published in 1894.
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Offline italwars

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #226 on: January 02, 2023, 02:08:21 AM »
Thanks for the info Marco
I ve already found an on line free PDF version..the first volume is more interesting than the second as it deals with actual battles between Russians and Central Asian tribesmen.
For war game ideas, according to this book, I ve just concluded  that landscape should preferably be desert o pre desert one, the Russian forces  had an high percentage of cavalry formed entirely of Cossacks ..the quasi totality of clashes saw fully mounted tribesmen forces that rarely or never close in their charges..combats were not only attacks on tribesmen strongpoints but also mounted raids against both Russian camps and tribal caravans ..quite an interesting period to game.

Offline JBaumal

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #227 on: January 04, 2023, 03:55:14 PM »
Marco - great find, that sounds awesome with lots of great gaming possibilities! Since we are currently gaming the period and building additional Russian & “native forces” I’d love to read this.

Italwars, could you please post the free link to the pdf of book 1?

Offline marco55

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #228 on: January 04, 2023, 09:04:07 PM »
Did you get S&T 338? The board game has a lot of positive reviews by people who have played. I would like to see Decision Games make a larger campaign type game with more scenarios.  https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/349741/russian-boots-south-conquest-central-asia
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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #230 on: January 12, 2023, 08:53:08 PM »
Great, thanks, now on my reading list.
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Offline marco55

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #232 on: March 02, 2023, 01:47:58 AM »
Have this book coming. It's almost 50 years old but not many bios on Russian generals, especially in this time period. I had one coming a couple weeks ago but it got lost in transit.
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Offline italwars

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #233 on: March 02, 2023, 10:26:51 AM »
thanks...even found a on -line free digital version  ;)

https://archive.org/details/dli.pahar.3458
« Last Edit: March 03, 2023, 08:05:37 AM by italwars »

Offline marco55

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #234 on: March 02, 2023, 12:01:44 PM »
I didn't know about the online copy of the book but I just can't read a book on the computer.
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Offline marco55

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #235 on: March 08, 2023, 01:58:54 AM »
The Lion of Tashkent arrived yesterday. :D
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Offline Mad Guru

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #236 on: March 13, 2023, 08:30:24 AM »
Thanks for posting the link to the online editions, Italwars! ...and thank you Marco for doing the same for the armed strength of Russia!
"We shall see what wisdom lies beneath my madness!"

Offline italwars

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #237 on: March 13, 2023, 02:59:00 PM »
you're Welcome Mad Guru :-)  all the credit to have  pinpointed those unusual but charming fronts goes to Marco
by the way Mad Guru are you also envisaging, like me, the folly of beginning another project/army with the Russians in Central Asia?..maybe to fill up ranks of the ennemies of Russia, even if not historically correct, we can use, as proxies,  some NWF tribesmen that we already have  but, from what i read, the Central Asian armies  were composed mainly of mounted warriors...while, even if many manufactures did produce quite a few castings of mounted NWF tribesmen, i never read any evidence of Pathan, Afridis, Waziris ecc..riding horses, "in action",  except during polo matches  ;) :)
« Last Edit: March 13, 2023, 03:02:10 PM by italwars »

Offline marco55

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #238 on: March 13, 2023, 04:19:51 PM »
Getting Central Asians for my scale is going to be hard. The only ones I have found is some Turkmen in with the Afghans section of Newline Designs. https://newlinedesigns.co.uk/product-category/newline-designs-20mm-ranges/newline-designs-20mm-ranges-colonial/newline-designs-20mm-ranges-colonial-afghans/ and they are 20mm not 22mm. The only Central Asians I have found is 28mm from Askari Miniatures. https://askari-minis.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=37 and they are also grouped with the Afghans.
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Offline S J Donovan

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Re: Russian Conquest of Central Asia 1860's-1880's
« Reply #239 on: March 13, 2023, 05:15:35 PM »
Tiger Miniatures has Central Asians in 28mm http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/centralasia.html  and are in stock at Recreational Conflict http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/index.html