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Winsor & Newton matt varnish - no longer matt enough????
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Bloggard:
yes, just had a 'fresh' can of the 'professional' matt spray, as I'm putting myself through the mill regarding varnishing atm.
the professional branding is a silver can with black lettering, and a black cap.
still an absolutely matt finish - the only ready-to-go varnish (i.e. not using an airbrush) I've used that does.
ironically I think I now find that 'look' too matt. I didn't use to feel that way - and have varnished 100s of figures with it - so not sure if it's my perception, or if it's constituted differently now - still matt, but somehow losing colour and contrast.
Dallimore gets an amazing matt finish - but having read his 'instructions' in the old Foundry books, you need a degree in chemistry and endless patience / checking to achieve it.
I find myself inc. happier with the egg-shell, slight sheen look as a compromise - colours are more vibrant etc.
a la steve D's threads on this forum.
Charlie_:
--- Quote from: Jeff965 on December 07, 2018, 03:46:53 PM ---Windsor and Newton professional Matt spray is the best matt varnish around in a can imho.
Windsor and Newton general purpose Matt spray varnish leaves a slight sheen and both come in very similar looking cans.
Is it a case that you've been using professional and then you've inadvertently switched to general purpose?
It happened to me :)
--- End quote ---
Good idea, but I just checked - it's definitely the Professional one.
I did however find the LAST can before the one I'm currently using, and it has a little bit left in it. I just tried it, and as expected it works perfectly. So it definitely is the most recently purchased one that is iffy, and the older one is fine.
Now interestingly the iffy one is a 400ml can I ordered from W&N themselves. The good one is a little 150ml can from Amazon. I've ordered some more of the little ones, interesting to see how they turn out....
Bloggard:
my 'fresh' can (literally delivered this week), is as 400ml - was from Cowling and Wilcox.
vexillia:
These may help:
[1] https://blog.vexillia.me.uk/2008/05/painting-tips-1-humbrol-mattcote.html
[2] https://blog.vexillia.me.uk/2014/05/painting-tips-5c-matting-acrylics-with.html
[3] https://blog.vexillia.me.uk/2011/09/painting-tips-5a-matting-acrylics-with.html
Plus the article "The Unvarnished Truth" may help with some of the chemistry:
https://blog.vexillia.me.uk/p/articles.html
Finally, as matting a surface relies on the nature of the surface to be varnished, not just the varnish, your ageing paints & even the primer may play a part. The sheen may be more obvious on certain colours: reds, blues & some greens if the colours are close to pure. This why I add talc to matt the paint, an seal the layers in one: the varnish has less "work" to do.
Bloggard:
those are brilliantly informative, thanks for putting up the link (and doing all the work in the first place!).
still sounds a bit much for me - too much of a constant juggling act for a 'I want it easy' type like myself.
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