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Offline Condottiere

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2019, 05:08:36 PM »
I think the multi pose arms are a good idea.
The under arm pilum pose illustrated above is just not right, even in fantasy. The pilum was a one shot throwing spear, never used in thrusting mode! Erm, if you get what I mean  :o

Looking forward to ordering these.
Pila could be used as regular spears...

The Pilum: The Roman Heavy Javelin


Offline Tim Haslam

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2019, 06:04:06 PM »
I stand corrected  lol

First time Iíve seen that historical pose!

Offline VonMoltke

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2019, 06:09:29 PM »
I think the multi pose arms are a good idea.
The under arm pilum pose illustrated above is just not right, even in fantasy. The pilum was a one shot throwing spear, never used in thrusting mode! Erm, if you get what I mean  :o

Looking forward to ordering these.

https://www.tomgunn.co.uk/product/rom043d/
https://www.facebook.com/victrixlimited/photos/a.486376468164919/801191986683364/?type=3&theater

Offline VonMoltke

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2019, 06:14:39 PM »
To the subject scale.
There are enough 28/30 mm mm romans like Victrix and Aventine miniatures ;-)
I am an old man, and I like to paint bigger miniatures.
They are in the GW stormcast eternal scale, what allowed much more details and the balljoint arm variants.
So all in all more 38 mm feet to eye level.
They can also be used as 40 mm for someone who likes this scale...

Offline VonMoltke

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2019, 06:18:01 PM »
Those are stunning.
Well done.
My only observation,
I would research Roman mythology and perhaps use these to create your Ďbeastsí
Whilst a very nice model, the bolt thrower mounted on the monster looks out of place? Almost Games Workshop style?
I think giant Wolves may have worked better? For example.
Also a war elephant of sorts may look cool. They were used in the arena and even came as far as Britain in the invasion.
Just enough historical bias, to go a bit crazy!

I would definitely buy into this collection, even in Resin!
It is marvellous.
Thank you.

You are right....
I must think in the future for fantasy mount cavalry....
What do you think?
Hippogryphs?
Lions?
May be someone has a good idea...

Offline Condottiere

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2019, 07:23:01 PM »
I stand corrected  lol

First time Iíve seen that historical pose!
It's not the best representation of Arrian's contra Alan formation, but it gets the point across, though I think it'd look better with oval scuta.

Roman pikeman and spearman

Arrian's Array against the Alans

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And the front four ranks of the formation must be of spearmen, whose spearpoints end in thin iron shanks. And the foremost of them should hold them at the ready, in order that when the enemies near them, they can thrust the ironpoints of the spears at the breast of the horses in particular. Those standing in second, third an fourth rank of the formation must hold their spears ready for thrusting if possible, wounding the horses and killing the horsemen and put the rider out of action with the spear stuck in their heavy body armour and the iron point bent because of the softness.

The legionary battle line

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The kontos described here appears to be the pilum, the classic heavy javelin of the legionary heavy infantry with its bendable iron shank, rather than the two handed cavalry spear used by the heavy cavalry contarii. A generally applied Greek vocabulary for translation of Latin terminology does not seem to have been adopted despite centuries of contact with the Roman army. The word hyssos was used by several Greek authors, most notably Polybius, as the Greek term for pilum, while Flavius Josephus employed the word xyston. The use of the pilum as a stabbing weapon rather than a javelin is not unique: Caesarís legionaries had done the same during the siege of Alesia according to the De bello Gallico. The description of the main battle formation lacks some details that could shed light on the exact dispositions of the subunits.

Offline VonMoltke

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #51 on: June 12, 2019, 06:11:20 PM »
The first miniatures has arrive ......if someone is interested to paint one , than please private message me. I will send you one legionary miniature set with gladius. But only if you will show here pictures of the painted miniature ;-)

Offline Frostie

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2019, 09:10:04 AM »
very nice!

I would like that ballista beast in 15mm, which is my fantasy mass battle scale

Offline Duff

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #53 on: June 15, 2019, 04:57:22 PM »
I just sent a PM, but my private messages doesn't show sent items for some reason. Let me know if you received it.

Offline VonMoltke

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2019, 11:10:39 AM »
@Duff
I get it ;-)

Offline MeridarchGekkota

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2019, 11:53:51 AM »
These are beautiful! I've been wishing for something like these for ages. I'm not a great painter but I'd be happy to have a go.

Offline Agis

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2019, 12:57:05 PM »
VonMoltke was kind enough to send my some samples and I was blown away by the sheer quality of the miniatures.
The minis are big chunky multipart resin that are full of character and conversion options, different heads weapon options etc. I chose amore traditional outfit for my 1st mini, gladius and shield plus helmet.
The base is a GW 32 mm base since the mini is REALLY BIG. You can see a comparison picture further down. To enhance the base I used some Milliput and the nice Rolling Pin ROMAN. Great effect!


The mini was based in Citadel Chaos black. After that some Citadel Ironbreaker for all the metal parts, Nuln Oil shade, again some Ironbreaker - done. Mephistion Red for the tunic and shield. Carroburg Crimson Shade and again some Red for some highlights. Skin is AV 72.100 Rosy Flesh, a Citadel Reikland Fleshshade, and again Rosy Skin with mixed in white for the flesh highlights. The gold is done all with citadel colours, Gehenna Gold, Agrax earthshade, again Gehenna Gold and finally some Auric gold with mixed in silver. All brown parts are AV Burnt Umber and AV flat earth highlights.

The mini is NOT fitting to any historical Roman range that I know of since the mini is around 42 mm high! See the comparison picture below. Even a Primaris Marine is dwarfed! IMO no problem since the mini line is obviously not aiming at any established setting or genre.


more - > http://www.adpublishing.de/html/fantasy__oriental_.html
cheers and keep on gaming, Agis - http://www.adpublishing.de

Offline Lost Egg

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #57 on: June 30, 2019, 01:34:50 PM »
Cracking job Agis and a lovely looking mini.

Offline Suetonius Paullinus

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #58 on: June 30, 2019, 04:19:41 PM »
Fantastic job  :-*
I think the size is rather cool and painting should be fun.
They will be perfect for skirmish or even role playing games  8)
Canít wait to get my hands on them!

Offline Agis

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Re: Fantasy romans
« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2019, 04:26:23 PM »
Thanks folks, these minis are indeed something very good!
Fantastic job  :-*
I think the size is rather cool and painting should be fun.
They will be perfect for skirmish or even role playing games  8)

About the size, 42mm is from feet to top of helmet.
Feet to eye is around 38mm!