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Author Topic: Would Tom Meier's Arthurian range work with 1/72 miniatures?  (Read 1056 times)

Offline blacksmith

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Would Tom Meier's Arthurian range work with 1/72 miniatures?
« on: August 22, 2022, 02:15:48 PM »
Ral Parth Legacy is selling them and I am wondering how they would look next to 1/72 miniatures. I'd really appreciate any help in this or even better, a comparative picture of one of Meier's next to a 1/72 miniature.

They are sculpted in 1/64 scale but I know Meier's sculpts are slim and thought that maybe they could pass for 1/72.
I wish they could as they are absolutely gorgeous state-of-the-art miniatures. Here's an example:


TIA

Offline Hobgoblin

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Re: Would Tom Meier's Arthurian range work with 1/72 miniatures?
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2022, 03:12:31 PM »
I think they'll be a bit big. The other Thunderbolt Mountain miniatures are bigger than the classic late-70s Ral Partha figures that are just about compatible with 1/72.

What makes the old RP stuff more or less fit with 1/72 is that Meier initially sculpted figures to be 25mm to the top of the head, rather than to the eye. But even his RP figures soon got significantly bigger.

Offline Mr. White

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Re: Would Tom Meier's Arthurian range work with 1/72 miniatures?
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2022, 03:26:44 PM »
Too bad...I would love a cool model to use as a Green Knight in 1/72 and that one posted by Blacksmith would have been perfect.

Offline Hobgoblin

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Re: Would Tom Meier's Arthurian range work with 1/72 miniatures?
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2022, 05:24:37 PM »
I think you'd be OK for the Green Knight - he's mean to be a giant, after all!

Offline blacksmith

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Re: Would Tom Meier's Arthurian range work with 1/72 miniatures?
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2022, 05:33:24 PM »
I think they'll be a bit big. The other Thunderbolt Mountain miniatures are bigger than the classic late-70s Ral Partha figures that are just about compatible with 1/72.

What makes the old RP stuff more or less fit with 1/72 is that Meier initially sculpted figures to be 25mm to the top of the head, rather than to the eye. But even his RP figures soon got significantly bigger.
Well, I don't know. These figures are truly 25mm; smaller than the Thunderbolt Mountain Orcs and Elves he sculpted which were 30mm height and yet smaller than any 28mm standard fantasy miniatures. Hence I was asking.
Anyway, I suspect they are a bit bigger than 1/72, I just wished to be wrong ;-)

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Re: Would Tom Meier's Arthurian range work with 1/72 miniatures?
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2022, 04:58:52 AM »
I took this not-so-great pic to help. No 1/72 figure in it, but.... you can sort of triangulate with the attached pic below and the pics on this post from 1/72 Multiverse:
https://72-multiverse.blogspot.com/2011/08/spell-casters.html

Specifically:




And I should add that the Thunderbolt Mountain figures are 25mm to the eye.

From what I can see, the size of the Thunderbolt heads is an ok match to the example 1/72, smaller than any Ral Partha figure. Height is what it is. You can picture 25mm to the eyes on the pics above.  But knights are big men. Many passages in Le Morte D'Arthur mention their size, especially the best of them like Tristan and Lancelot.

So, I agree I think you will be OK for the green knight. Maybe even others.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2022, 05:11:40 AM by Spooktalker »

Offline blacksmith

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Re: Would Tom Meier's Arthurian range work with 1/72 miniatures?
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2022, 11:46:08 AM »
I agree with you and I think they may be too tall. It would be great to have a picture of them next to 1/72 though. Thank you very much for your help  :)

Offline Galtisant

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Re: Would Tom Meier's Arthurian range work with 1/72 miniatures?
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2022, 01:37:28 AM »
I don't have any suitable 1/72 figures for comparison, but I can give you an indication of how their size compares against a number of different 28mm figures.

The first thing to note is that the size of the horses within the Thunderbolt Mountain range varies a lot. The first photograph shows some figures with the largest and smallest horses within the range. For reference the models shown are numbers 3002, 3012, 3013, and 3028. Most of the knights have horses midway between these extremes. The Green Knights horse is similar in size to the largest. This range of horse sizes is just about plausible, as at a rough guess, I estimate that the largest horses scale to around 17-18 hands high and the smallest 12 hands high.

After the Thunderbolt Mountain range went out of production I wanted to my collection, so tried using some of the smaller 28mm ranges. It sort of worked, but not really, so I am now duplicating many of the figures with 28mm models.

Size comparison photographs of some of the ranges are shown below:

The Thunderbolt Mountain mounted knights vary in height between 25 and 28mm tall, with the majority off the figures at the lower end of this range. Similarly the knights on foot are between 25 and 27 mm tall. The Green knight is approaching 30mm tall.

The foot figures are similar in height to the Wargames Foundry early medieval range, but like the knights are much closer to human proportions, so are much slimmer and have smaller heads.

Looking at the figure size for most medieval ranges, as shown on Plastic Soldier Review, I suspect that the Thunderbolt Mountain figures will on average be 2-3mm taller than most plastic ranges, but some of the horses will be significantly larger than the plastic versions.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2022, 01:40:12 AM by Galtisant »

Offline blacksmith

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Re: Would Tom Meier's Arthurian range work with 1/72 miniatures?
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2022, 10:40:23 AM »
Galtisant, thank you very much for your help and pictures! TM look definitely bigger than any 1/72 plastics I'm afraid.
Cheers,

 

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