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Author Topic: M48A3 Patton Tank - WIP  (Read 16090 times)

Offline FreakyFenton

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Re: M48A3 - WIP
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2019, 12:44:39 PM »
Cool projects? Will they be commercially available?
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Offline Rich H

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Re: M48A3 - WIP
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2019, 12:47:33 PM »
The M48 will be as it's a commission.
The rest will be on spec see if they want more.

List is currently:
Ontos
Sheridan
Gage Commando

Now Adding:
Otter

But there is a lon glist of other things too... 

Offline FreakyFenton

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Re: M48A3 - WIP
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2019, 12:49:33 PM »
Oh nice, I might pm you and finally order some of these excellent models!  :D lol

Thanks for the heads up!

Offline Ultravanillasmurf

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Re: M48A3 - WIP
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2019, 07:06:59 PM »
Oooh, a Cadillac Gage Commando.That brings back memories of The Morrow Proect.

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: M48A3 - WIP
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2019, 09:29:46 PM »
Nobody ever seems to remember, or care for my favourite ‘toy’ jeep, the USMC’s very own M-422 Mighty Mite. Cute in a sort of anime way but saw a bit of service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M422_Mighty_Mite

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Offline Ultravanillasmurf

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Re: M48A3 - WIP
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2019, 08:33:59 AM »
Nobody ever seems to remember, or care for my favourite ‘toy’ jeep, the USMC’s very own M-422 Mighty Mite. Cute in a sort of anime way but saw a bit of service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M422_Mighty_Mite
That is cute.

Offline Munindk

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Re: M48A3 - WIP
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2019, 09:09:46 AM »
Very cute :)

On the topic of other vehicles, specifically jeeps, I'm wondering how much difference there is between the old WW2 era jeeps and the Vietnam war era jeeps?

From pictures it seems that the main difference was the grille being vertical instead of horizontal slots.

Offline Rich H

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Re: M48A3 - WIP
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2019, 09:32:53 AM »
Pretty sure the later jeeps were signifiacntly larger too.

Bit of progress last night but the ankle biter decided that sleeping was boring and he'd much rather scream.

By the way the top cupola is almost as bad as the main turret.... 

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: M48A3 - WIP
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2019, 09:43:54 AM »
How technical do you want to get? Suffice it to say that the M-151 MUTT was a completely different vehicle with almost nothing in common with a WW2 era Willys MB / Ford GPW jeep, structurally or motor mechanically.

MUTTs weren’t the only jeeps in service in Vietnam. There were still substantial holdings of M-38A1 s, the successor to the M-38, itself the successor to the WW2 era Willys MB/ Ford GPW. The only 28mm sized ones I know of is the 1/48 version that comes with the Monogram/Revell CH-53 kit. You also get a 105mm howitzer but I doubt you’ll want to shell out big bucks for a two foot long helicopter.

There are a number of 1/64 diecast CJ-5 models out there, the M-38A1 essentially being the military version. They are rather on the small side though.

Offline Ultravanillasmurf

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Re: M48A3 - WIP
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2019, 10:27:46 AM »
From pictures it seems that the main difference was the grille being vertical instead of horizontal slots.
I had looked at http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=114631.msg1450143#msg1450143 many times but not noticed the horizontal grill.

There is a tendency to consider a jeep is a jeep is a jeep (except when it is a gitpanzer), as Carlos rightly points out that is not the case

Offline Munindk

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Re: M48A3 - WIP
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2019, 10:51:25 AM »
So Gringos is the only reasonably priced M151, but M38s werent completely fased out?

Offline Rich H

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Re: M48A3 Patton Tank - WIP
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2019, 10:57:27 AM »
Corrected the title... damn American naming conventions...

So the MUTT is covered, what else is missing from the Vietnam range in 28mm?

Offline mrcleh

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Re: M48A3 Patton Tank - WIP
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2019, 11:57:21 AM »
How about the Dodge M37? It was also converted into gun trucks:

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: M48A3 Patton Tank - WIP
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2019, 10:17:33 PM »
What else is missing? Quite a lot but how much is desired is another thing.

The M-37 is a good choice, although it will irritate me slightly having gone to the trouble of cutting up a perfectly good 1/50 Dodge WC just to make one. Its replacement, the M-715 would give you a distinctive looking model but limited to the latter half of the war.

The ten ton M-54 is the most obvious softskin missing. It looks like the M-35 series but it’s bigger. The M-54 was actually the basis for most of the gun trucks.

For the USMC,  the LVT series: LVTP-5 LVTE-6 and the LVTH-6. It’s surprising to read of the frequency with which they appear in USMC operations not just shore landings.

Armour? The US Army fielded a number of the cute but rather impractical M-56 Scorpion SPAT guns. It has essentially the same running gear as that Otter. It’s former Cold War board moderator Arlequin’s favourite vehicle.

For later war an M-551 Sheridan is required. They replaced M-48s and occasionally M-113 in various armoured cavalry units and were the second principle tank used by the US Army in Vietnam.  They are available on Shapeways and Company B did a 1/56 version IIRC. Think that one is OOP though.

If you fancied using the M-48 chassis for other things then there’s the M-88 ARV and a bridge layer would be pretty cool. The Marines, being the Marines had their own ARV, the M-51, based on the M-103 chassis. That would definitely pander to any desire to make something big. They were massive items.

Plenty of other stuff but I’m already in silly/ fantasy territory.

Offline Ultravanillasmurf

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Re: M48A3 Patton Tank - WIP
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2019, 10:53:58 PM »
There is the M41 Walker Bulldog, in use with ARVN plus the M42 Duster.

Due to losses, M48A2s were used due to shortages of t diesel A3s.