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Author Topic: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.  (Read 34683 times)

Offline traveller

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #90 on: August 03, 2019, 11:40:41 AM »
Lovely unit  :-*

They can get a second chance to prove their worth in curbing the Draft Riots in NY in 1863  ;)

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #91 on: August 03, 2019, 11:45:48 AM »
I am liking these sailor boys

Offline Leman

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #92 on: August 04, 2019, 07:26:50 PM »
 :o
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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #93 on: August 04, 2019, 10:06:03 PM »
Lovely work from your artist on the marines.
Best wishes,
Helen
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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #94 on: August 09, 2019, 07:23:07 PM »
Okay, it's getting embarrassing now. I'm painting the Rebs in this project, and I'm farming out the Union to other people to do for me. I've hit a painting block, but the Union carries on.

These are the 14th New York State Militia, the Brooklyn Chasseurs. Painted by Dave Woodward.

The figures are Perry Miniatures zouaves in kepi. Neither PM or Crusader do the chasseurs, but these zouaves are quite close so I went with them.

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #95 on: August 09, 2019, 08:22:10 PM »
Lovely work from Dave.

Offline vtsaogames

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #96 on: August 09, 2019, 08:24:02 PM »
Dese guys are really nice. Youse may want to talk da right way when using dem.
And the glorious general led the advance
With a glorious swish of his sword and his lance
And a glorious clank of his tin-plated pants. - Dr. Seuss


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Offline Leman

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #97 on: August 10, 2019, 09:44:31 AM »
Are you sure they’re the 14th Brooklyn and not the 14th Toxteth. The above reads just like scouse.

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #98 on: August 10, 2019, 02:25:24 PM »
I'm on the wrong side of the pond, no idea what scouse is.
Brooklynese I know.

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #99 on: August 10, 2019, 07:18:52 PM »


As a Forest fan, I'll keep my opinion to myself...

Offline zippyfusenet

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #100 on: August 11, 2019, 01:21:37 AM »
Da Toity Poiple Boids

Toity poiple boids wuz sittin onna coibstone, boipin an choipin an eatin doity woims.

Along comes Boit anna skoit named Goit what woiks inna shoit factwy ovah in Joisey,

An dey seen da toity poiple boids sittin onna coibstone, boipin an choipin an eatin doity woims,

An Boit sez, "Look Goit!"

An boi, wuz dey pwetoibed.
You'll shoot your eye out, kid!

Offline nicknorthstar

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #101 on: August 11, 2019, 12:13:50 PM »
Although I'm not painting the Union side, just the Rebs, all the research is done by me, and it's been quite time consuming. Artmaster have painted the US marines, and I wanted to send them the 1st Minnesota next.

I mentioned on page 3 of this thread that I would defer to the great Don in all matters of uniforms, but I'm going to to have to break that rule  :o

Don shows the 1st MN in red shirts and caps with havelocks. My other sources show them in hats, but also red shirts. I found the regimental history on line yesterday and I read through the early part, the muster and 1st Bull Run. So it's pretty clear they were issued with Red Shirts (a kind of workmans overshirt), black hats and black 'pants' (trousers please, pants are under-crackers). They were gifted havelocks on the route to Bull Run. After Bull Run, the regiment gets all sulky because they still don't have a proper uniform, just the red shirt look, so within weeks they get their Blue-Belly uniform and CAPS.

So Dons right, they did have havelocks, but it seems pretty clear they wore black hats not caps. Did they fashion a weird havelock over the hat combination, wear them under the hat? Or did they just say 'thank you Mam' when handed the havelock, but thought 'I've got a brimmed hat, I don't need neck protection' and used them to strain coffee instead.

These are the things that keep me up at night  lol

The decision is not to go with Don, but use Crusader Miniatures in hats and shirts and get them painted like these reenactors:


What it does say in the regimental history is one of the companies showed up in a proper grey uniform. (their locality paid for it). So I'm going to mix 2 or 3 figures into the regiment in full grey frock coat/ grey kepi. Plus officer in full blue with gold epaulettes. I think they are going to look great!!

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #102 on: August 11, 2019, 06:09:17 PM »
Scouse ain't nuttin' like Brooklyn. See here

Offline Leman

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #103 on: August 13, 2019, 03:47:30 PM »
In that instance yes, it ain’t nottin’ like Brooklyn. Youse lot woz right all along laird.

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Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
« Reply #104 on: August 13, 2019, 04:45:15 PM »
Here's a sneak preview of some new ACW figures by Crusader Miniatures' Mark Sims. It's the 79th New York, the 'Highlanders'.

There will be more riflemen, but he's not doing bagpipes or kilts.