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Author Topic: Italian Wars- Up and Coming Vignette- Page 20- UPDATED- 05-04-2023  (Read 39748 times)

Offline Sirolf

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Some ice and hydrocortisone and you'll be back painting in no time 👍🏼

Me too! As I said earlier, yesterday I dropped a bloomin' pan on my painting hand! I don't think anything is broken but I'm giving until tomorrow just on case. It's nice and bruised, hurts but nothing is wonky  lol

Offline Atheling

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Re: To Fornovo and Back Again! Swiss Mercenary Band Types P. 7- 16/05/21
« Reply #91 on: May 16, 2021, 10:46:15 AM »
Some ice and hydrocortisone and you'll be back painting in no time 👍🏼

Thanks Sirolf.

I'm more or less back in the saddle now.....

More Swiss though they took longer as I had to wait for the swelling in my hand to subside then caught quite a brutal "cold". At least I hope it was a cold.

As usual, more pics and my reasoning for the painting and modelling can be found on my blog here:
https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2021/05/swiss-mercenary-band-types.html


Swiss Mercenary Band Types



Based on the artwork of Massimo Predonzani illustrator of the recent book, The Italian Wars Volume 1, The Expedition of Charles VIII into Italy and the Battle of Fornovo
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« Last Edit: May 16, 2021, 10:49:45 AM by Atheling »

Offline bluewillow

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Re: To Fornovo and Back Again! Swiss Mercenary Band Types P. 7- 16/05/21
« Reply #92 on: May 16, 2021, 11:42:37 AM »
Like them mate

Offline Atheling

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Re: To Fornovo and Back Again! Swiss Mercenary Band Types P. 7- 16/05/21
« Reply #93 on: May 16, 2021, 03:51:53 PM »
Like them mate

Thanks Matt. Slow progress this week but picking up speed again :)

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Re: To Fornovo and Back Again! Swiss Mercenary Band Types P. 7- 16/05/21
« Reply #94 on: May 16, 2021, 03:58:03 PM »
Lovely work  :)
cheers

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Re: To Fornovo and Back Again! Swiss Mercenary Band Types P. 7- 16/05/21
« Reply #95 on: May 16, 2021, 08:03:36 PM »
Good to hear you‘re well again, both regarding hand and cold. That sure sounds like a scare.

Lovely on your Swiss, it’s Good to see you’re making progress with your project. I know how daunting those Swiss pike blocks can be (and my largest is only 40 strong) but it sure is worth it.

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Re: To Fornovo and Back Again! Swiss Mercenary Band Types P. 7- 16/05/21
« Reply #96 on: May 16, 2021, 11:11:35 PM »
More lovely miniatures.  :-* :-*

Offline Atheling

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Re: To Fornovo and Back Again! Swiss Mercenary Band Types P. 7- 16/05/21
« Reply #97 on: May 17, 2021, 05:13:02 AM »
Thanks chaps.

Good to hear you‘re well again, both regarding hand and cold. That sure sounds like a scare.

It was.

Lovely on your Swiss, it’s Good to see you’re making progress with your project. I know how daunting those Swiss pike blocks can be (and my largest is only 40 strong) but it sure is worth it.

I'm going to need 3 x 64 man units for what I have planned and that's just for the Swiss! So, a heck of a long way to go yet and that's just for the Swiss thus the speeded up painting  lol

Nothing concrete as of yet but I seem to be slowly migrating to from Fornovo to Cerignola. Until I've made a concrete decision I'm going to be painting up miniatures that are of use for both battles!
« Last Edit: May 17, 2021, 05:14:42 AM by Atheling »

Offline Atheling

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First Stradiot/Stradioti Unit fully tarted up and ready for action, sort of.....



Pics galore of the units from various angles and all of the single bases as well as the usual questionable historical waffle on my blog here:
https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2021/05/first-stradiotstradioti-unit.html


This unit is in the service of Venice and bears the Standard of St Mark. The tails of the banner have been cut off as, at least to my eyes, it would have looked way to big for a lightly armed cavalry unit. The Standard of St Mark is from Pete at Pete's Flags. Pete produces the most beautiful banners available from the mid Fifteenth Century Condottiero, The Italian Wars, the Tudor Wars of Henry VIII and the Wars of the Roses. They are all mini works of art and if you are at all interested in this period of warfare I highly recommend you pop over to the link below and check his work out.

Pete's Flags:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/petes_flags/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

I have plans for 36 Stradioti in six units of three bases, each base with two miniatures. The bases are simply the same size as the pike bases but turned through 90 degrees to leave enough wiggle room to stagger the models.  Every second unit will be given a banner. The next one will be bearing the arms of Piedro Diodo which were very kindly supplied to my by one of his descendants in Northern Italy (I have stupidly forgotten your name; I'm really sorry- I had to delete some emails to avoid googlemail charging me for space so if you're reading this please contact me and I will happily add in your name). The third banner will be another Standard of St Mark with the tail removed again.







« Last Edit: May 23, 2021, 04:52:39 PM by Atheling »

Offline HappyChappy439

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They look really impressive arrayed up! (And appropriately colourful!  :D )

How did you decide on the shield designs/patterning for them? If you don't mind me asking

Offline Atheling

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They look really impressive arrayed up! (And appropriately colourful!  :D )

Thanks matey

How did you decide on the shield designs/patterning for them? If you don't mind me asking

They're not specific pieces as far as I know, but were heavily influenced by John Bianchi's painting and research from the Vlad WAB supplement. It's actually one of the more useful of the WAB supplements in terms of Eastern European Heraldry. John's also emailed me quite a few bits and pieces over the years which will fall into place later :)

Offline skip

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Nice thread you have here mate, great painting too

Brian

Offline Little Odo

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Your painting is so vibrant. They look amazing.
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Offline Captain Harlock

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Re: To Fornovo and Back Again!
« Reply #103 on: May 23, 2021, 10:13:03 PM »
Yesterdays Speed Painting goings On.....

More pics and the usual waffle on my blog here:
https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2021/05/stradiots-last-evenings-painterly-doings.html


Stadioti




Possibly the best painted Perry stradioti I have seen  :-*
And to put some names to faces.. Here are some words of Thomas of Argos a stradioti commander fighting for Henry VIII in France. They were facing a French force twice their number, including heavy cavalry.
''Comrades, as you see we are in the extreme parts of the world, under the service of a King and a nation in the farthest north. And nothing we brought here from our country other than our courage and bravery. Thus, bravely we stand against our enemies, because their numbers cannot match our virtue. We are children of the Hellenes and we are not afraid of the barbarian horde. …. Therefore, courageous and orderly let us march to the enemy, … and let us prove with our action the famous since olden times virtue of the Hellenes''

They managed to ambush and out maneuver the French causing them to retreat leaving 360 dead on the field. The Stradioti numbered 35 dead and Henry granted Thomas an annual salary as a reward.

Offline Atheling

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Your painting is so vibrant. They look amazing.

Thanks Little Odo, colour spheres still echo in my mind post art college. My head still spins at the mere thought of having to absorb all that data!  ;)  o_o

Nice thread you have here mate, great painting too

Brian

Thanks Brian, a lot more to add :)

Possibly the best painted Perry stradioti I have seen  :-*
And to put some names to faces.. Here are some words of Thomas of Argos a stradioti commander fighting for Henry VIII in France. They were facing a French force twice their number, including heavy cavalry.
''Comrades, as you see we are in the extreme parts of the world, under the service of a King and a nation in the farthest north. And nothing we brought here from our country other than our courage and bravery. Thus, bravely we stand against our enemies, because their numbers cannot match our virtue. We are children of the Hellenes and we are not afraid of the barbarian horde. …. Therefore, courageous and orderly let us march to the enemy, … and let us prove with our action the famous since olden times virtue of the Hellenes''

They managed to ambush and out maneuver the French causing them to retreat leaving 360 dead on the field. The Stradioti numbered 35 dead and Henry granted Thomas an annual salary as a reward.

Lead by Pietro Duodo who was given command of the Stradioti and the other Light Cavalry that we now know lead the flank march through the hills and behind the French army and onto Charles VIII's porn stash! Among other valuable items!
« Last Edit: May 24, 2021, 10:14:43 AM by Atheling »

 

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