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Offline Armstrong47

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Russian Dragoons 1904
« on: December 01, 2019, 09:51:22 AM »
Hi,
Does anyone have any further information/images of what the service uniform of Russian dragoons would've been during the Russo-Japanese war?
Specifically the early months of 1904,during the Yalu River campaign.

Thanks,
Andy
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Re: Russian Dragoons 1904
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2019, 07:17:59 AM »
Maybe this picture will give you some information.

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Re: Russian Dragoons 1904
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2019, 12:21:30 PM »
You might be best posting this in the "Great War" of "Back of Beyond" section to catch the eye of those with knowledge of this period - namely "Cumprum" of Siberia Miniatures.

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Re: Russian Dragoons 1904
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2019, 02:35:49 PM »
As far as I know, only the Cossack cavalry took part in the battle on the Yalu River.

In May, Russian dragoons most likely wore green uniforms and colored forage caps:



In cold weather, they could use an greatcoat:



In the summer, dragoons would wear white shirts.


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Re: Russian Dragoons 1904
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2019, 03:30:32 PM »
This is good information material, but then the peaked caps at the Tsuba Miniatures Russian Cavalary are
as a cossak rather than a dragoon. Isn´t it ?

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Re: Russian Dragoons 1904
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2019, 03:43:58 PM »
All military units permanently deployed in Siberia and the Far East had special headgear  - a long-haired fur-hat. Units from European Russia did not have such a difference.

Offline Armstrong47

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Re: Russian Dragoons 1904
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2019, 04:14:28 PM »
Thanks for the info guys.
So,am I correct in assuming that the Tsuba Russian cavalry in peaked caps are Cossacks?

ThanksAndy

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Re: Russian Dragoons 1904
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2019, 01:56:13 AM »
I do not have such figures, so I can only judge by photo.
The summer field uniforms of Cossacks and dragoons are very similar (especially on the figures). But there are some elements that allow us to confidently distinguish Cossacks from regular army soldiers.
Cossacks had a saddle of the Asian type, in contrast to the army cavalry. Accordingly, they did not use spurs to control the horse. But, since Cossacks acquired uniforms and equipment at his own expense, options are possible here and we can neglect this rule (the figures discussed have an army-style saddle))))
Cossacks (except for the Caucasus, having a special uniform) always had on their trousers a wide colored ribbon (I do not know the term in English). Similar to what many European generals wore))) The color of the strip was the instrumental color of the troops (Don - scarlet, Siberian - red, Ural - raspberry, Transbaikal - yellow - and so on). Army cavalry did not have such a colored ribbon.
The Cossacks did not carry the rifle in the same way as regular cavalry soldiers did. They wore it over the other shoulder (vice versa). It was connected with the old Cossack tradition.




dragoons




Cossacks


So for most of the signs the figures Tsuba - are Cossacks.

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Re: Russian Dragoons 1904
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2019, 09:30:37 AM »
Thank you very much,Cuprum. Fantastic information as always.
Thanks
Andy

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Re: Russian Dragoons 1904
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2019, 05:08:01 PM »
I will always be happy to help if I have the necessary information.