Operation Jubilee - Dieppe Raid and Churchills Now with Dingo!

[carlos marighela]

Indeed, that looks bril! Nice, clean, print.

[Rich H]

Ta!  It's damn small!

It's got a bit of ridging on the front plate due to a sub-optimal angle but nothign a quick scrape with a scalpel can't fix. 

Ideally printed flat surfaces want to either be vertical, horizontal or at 46.8 degrees to the base plate (not 45 for technical reasons).  The further away from them you are the more obvious the layers.  Clearly on an angled vehicle like this some plates will be sub-optimal!

I think I'm going ot base all the vehicles as the shingle is a defining part of the story.

I was thinking of getting some US infantry to use to represent some of the 50 US Rangers but 1 - they wore Brodie helmets anyway and 2 they were part of the commando raids only.  Not sure what weapons they would have had either.

[carlos marighela]

Photos of them training in Scotland circa 1942 show them with standard US uniforms and small arms but wearing battle bowlers rather than M1 helmets. I’d just swap some heads to the Perry or Warlord US Army figures.

[Rich H]

What weapons did they have?  M1 Grarands? 

[carlos marighela]

Judging by that photo yes, Garands. There’s another that seems to have been taken at the same time showing a BAR.

[Rich H]

Cool, I'm no good at IDing small arms... Thnaks!

I'll add them in as an option to the Commando raids for variety.

Was going to give them Behind Enemy Lines, Tough Fighter and Fire and Manoeuvre (no brit traits though)

[Rich H]

The infantry are built and my Brodie helmets pritned - just curing in the sun today.
I've got:
4x 10 man infantry squads with Bren and Sten
1x 10 man Engineer squad with Sten and Bangalore torpedoes
Lt+Batman
Naval Observer+Petty Officer
Light Mortar+loader
Sniper+Assistant
Boys AT Rifle+loader
1 spare man.

I've run out of SMLEs without spike bayonet so the alst infantry squad are sans rifles at the moment.  Found a decent STL so I'll print some if I have to.

So Colours (colors if you must ) question:

Infantry: it's well noted that the Canadians uniforms were markedly more green than the British - can anyone suggest a suitable paint?  (ideally not a mix and it'll be airbrushed as I'm lazy)

Dingo:  The Dingo is bascoated SCC2 and I'm wondering what the other two colours should be - I'm thinking SCC1a Dark Brown and SCC15 olive drab - what do you think?

TIA!

[Blackwolf]

Ah Canadian uniforms; English uniform mixed with brown violet and perhaps a mere touch of Russian uniform.
As for the Dingo; NATO black would be a better option,dark brown disappears next to olive drab.
Cheero
Guy

[Volleyfire!]

Loving this thread.
FYI Britain at War magazine did a very good feature on Dieppe in 2017. Back issues still available here...
https://shop.keypublishing.com/issue/View/issue/BAW0124/britain-at-war-aug2017

[carlos marighela]

It’s probably due to an overexposure to Celine Dion over various pre-Christmas shopping expeditions but I’ve always thought of Canadians as being almost uniformly beige. Beige with the odd lavender, blingy gold and turquoise highlight. Just enough to set one’s teeth on edge. Just like Ms Dion’s ‘music’. 

[Shahbahraz]

Ottawa and Toronto may be beige, but there's a lot more to Canada than that

[Rich H]

Loving this thread.
FYI Britain at War magazine did a very good feature on Dieppe in 2017. Back issues still available here...
https://shop.keypublishing.com/issue/View/issue/BAW0124/britain-at-war-aug2017

Thanks... but not a great start though...
The Churchill on the cover is the wrong colour and it's got covers on the air intakes (taken off to fit wading kit )

[Will Bailie]

Great progress, Rich!

Comments on your list:  Canadian platoons had 3 sections (not squads  ) of 10, not 4 - but do what you need to make the points work!

'Colours' is correct, Canadians preferred English to American spelling, at least until we started to get Microsoft trying to 'correct' us.

I wouldn't get too hung up on uniform colours.  The uniforms would not have been brand new issue, and would mostly have been pretty wet after splashing to shore from the landing craft, so actual shade would be different from brand new issue.  To quote Mike Dorosh from canadiansoldiers.com:

Colour and Shade
Scale modellers, artists and re-enactors all worry about the "correct" shade of the Battle Dress uniform. The truth is that there really is no one correct shade.

A look at original samples will reveal that no two items of army clothing ever really looked the same (as an aside, the East Germans in the 1970s and 1980s came close, by the use of large amounts of synthetic material.)

Many difference factors conspired against the possibility of finding two sets of Battle Dress in precisely the same shade:

different manufacturers

different dates of manufacture

different material lots

different dyes used in creation of those materials

different lengths of exposure to sun, salt water, and chemical impregnation (ie the use of anti-vessicants before D-Day)

storage facilities and stores that did not bother to keep matched BD suits

Even during the intial issue of Battle Dress in 1939, blouses and trousers were being produced by different factories; one regimental history noted that the colour was so vastly different that there was reluctance to issue the trousers and blouses together.

And i must admit some surprise at Mr Margihela picking on poor Ms Dion, when it's well known that Canada has also provided the world with the inimitable talents of Nickelback, Justin Bieber, Avril Lavigne and of course, Drake.  Give it up for that hotline bling!

[Rich H]

Dubious music references aside...

Thanks for the info.  I'm going to go for slightly green British uniform as its sort of iconic and expected.  Plus it makes them distinct.

[Volleyfire!]

Thanks... but not a great start though...
The Churchill on the cover is the wrong colour and it's got covers on the air intakes (taken off to fit wading kit )

Ah, but there are lots of genuine photos inside in the article of the vehicles used in the raid and info on what each one did.