Author Topic: Were There Ever Any Battles Between Chinese Triads (Tongs) And Cowboys? (Read 5056 times)

leadfool · « **Reply #15 on:** September 25, 2020, 05:55:48 AM »

For research let me refer you to;
Screst William B., California Feuds, word Dancer Press, 2005.

Several blacksmiths made the tong weapons, including one John Carr of Weaverville. There were several fights in the town of Weaverville, First between the Chinese faction of "Red Caps" and former residents of Canton. Then it crossed over into the non-Chinese miners including a Swede named Jan Malmberg, who shot into a Chinese group and then was himself shot. There were fights in Marysille, Greenwood and Sacramento. The corner of Fifth and J street had a fight in September 8 1854. Primarily between Chinese and Police.

There was a fight involving rifles and pistols in Tuolumne county in 1856, over mining rights. Near a place called Rock river ranch. something like 1200 participants. Numerous dead and wounded, hundreds of shots fired. The rivals were Sam-Yaps and the Yan-Wo. The Sheriff James Stewart, deputies and a posse managed to arrest some 250.

Cacique Caribe · « **Reply #16 on:** September 29, 2020, 05:28:29 PM »

Thank you Sir Leadfool!

Excellent information. Hopefully it will lead me to many more of those useful and juicy bits about that time and region.

Dan

monk2002uk · « **Reply #17 on:** September 29, 2020, 08:38:22 PM »

Said sheriff:

Robert

Cacique Caribe · « **Reply #18 on:** September 30, 2020, 09:19:21 PM »

Lol. Good.

Dan

leadfool · « **Reply #19 on:** October 02, 2020, 06:47:08 AM »

i didn't catch the name of the sheriff. Sometimes it just works out that way. My home county in California, Yolo County had a sheriff named Bart Simpson for a while.

other books to look up are;
From Canton to California 1976, Corinne Hoexter,
Bury my bones in America 1998, Lani Farkas.
The days of the Tong wars 1974, C.Y. Lee
Pigtails and gold dust 1947, Alexander McLeod
The Hatchet men 1962, Richard Dillon
The Chinese in San Francisco 1979. Laverne Dicker

Cacique Caribe · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2021, 09:57:54 PM »

By the way, if any of you need to add Asian (mostly Chinese) signs and graffiti to your shacks and buildings, check out the signs and other visual ideas offered here:

http://fireflychinese.kevinsullivansite.net/faq.html
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=340555
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=93425.msg1153323#msg1153323

Dan

Cubs · « **Reply #21 on:** February 05, 2021, 11:05:31 PM »

Quote from: leadfool on October 02, 2020, 06:47:08 AM

My home county in California, Yolo County had a sheriff named Bart Simpson for a while.

I hope he caught a cattle rustler and said, "Don't have a cow, man."

... sorry ...

leadfool · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2021, 06:59:40 PM »

Funny Cubs Funny.

Cacique Caribe · « **Reply #23 on:** February 11, 2021, 11:32:43 PM »

A bar brawl should be awesome too, if the two groups were to clash inside an establishment, don’t you think?

Dan

3Fingers2 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 10, 2021, 08:38:18 PM »

I think leadfool covered it but I did remember seeing about a clash between Chinese workers and non Chinese on a gold field either in America or Australia ?

leadfool · « **Reply #25 on:** March 11, 2021, 05:32:10 AM »

3fingers2....I don't know about Australia, but in CA. The fight you are thinking of may be the fight at Rock River. ranch in Toulumne county. When the Sheriff and Posse showed up. To arrest 250 Chinese there must have been some fighting. It is easy to see how that could get out of hand. Some trigger happy member of the Posse decides to settle some old score and ....?

joroas · « **Reply #26 on:** March 11, 2021, 10:03:49 AM »

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068093/
Just a thought!

3Fingers2 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 14, 2021, 08:59:19 PM »

Quote from: leadfool on March 11, 2021, 05:32:10 AM

3fingers2....I don't know about Australia, but in CA. The fight you are thinking of may be the fight at Rock River. ranch in Toulumne county. When the Sheriff and Posse showed up. To arrest 250 Chinese there must have been some fighting. It is easy to see how that could get out of hand. Some trigger happy member of the Posse decides to settle some old score and ....?

I’ve had another delve into it , as typically it was bugging me and it was actually Australia 🙄 lambing flat riots 👍

leadfool · « **Reply #28 on:** March 15, 2021, 11:15:54 AM »

Lambing Flats.......well that is a great name. Tell us more. 3fingers2.

Poiter50 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 15, 2021, 02:39:38 PM »

The Lambing Flat Riots (1860-1861) were a series of violent anti-Chinese demonstrations that took place in the Burrangong region, in New South Wales, Australia. They occurred on the goldfields at Spring Creek, Stoney Creek, Back Creek, Wombat, Blackguard Gully, Tipperary Gully, and Lambing Flat.

Source - Wikipedia but taught back when I was at school.

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