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Offline Atheling

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Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« on: July 23, 2020, 08:03:46 PM »
Hi,

I'm about to embark on a substantial Second Afghan War project, pulling in all the troops types from both protagonists as well as adding (re: probably converting) some of the more esoteric stuff. I can't really say more on the subject as of yet- ooh, mysterious

I recently came across the image attached to this post vie the net. It is attributed to Wiki so I supposed that it ought to be reasonably accurate- or at least fact checked?

I'm assuming that the gun on the left is a Seven Pounder (Screw Gun?) but what I'd like to know is what type and caliber is the gun on the right? I'm thinking 24 Pounder?

If it is a 24 Pounder (or 18??) then is it a Heavy 24 Pounder or a 24 Pounder Field Gun?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers :)
« Last Edit: July 23, 2020, 08:39:42 PM by Atheling »

Offline JBaumal

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2020, 04:12:58 PM »
I believe it’s a 40LBR.

Offline Mad Guru

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2020, 09:34:03 AM »
My good friend Sgt. Guinness AKA: JBaumal is 100% correct.  It is indeed a RBL 40-pounder Armstrong gun,  a 4-gun battery of which formed part of the garrison of Kandahar during the siege of that city following the British defeat at Maiwand.

Here's a LINK to said gun's Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBL_40-pounder_Armstrong_gun

Several years ago a small number were produced in 28mm scale for private subscription, a few of which JBaumal and myself are lucky enough to have had the opportunity to purchase.

Here's a not-very-good pic of one posed atop the unfinished tabletop for my fast-approaching 140th Anniversary Battle of Kandahar game:

« Last Edit: July 25, 2020, 09:37:45 AM by Mad Guru »
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Offline Atheling

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2020, 09:45:52 AM »
I believe it’s a 40LBR.

My good friend Sgt. Guinness AKA: JBaumal is 100% correct.  It is indeed a RBL 40-pounder Armstrong gun,  a 4-gun battery of which formed part of the garrison of Kandahar during the siege of that city following the British defeat at Maiwand.

Here's a LINK to said gun's Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBL_40-pounder_Armstrong_gun

Several years ago a small number were produced in 28mm scale for private subscription, a few of which JBaumal and myself are lucky enough to have had the opportunity to purchase.

Here's a not-very-good pic of one posed atop the unfinished tabletop for my fast-approaching 140th Anniversary Battle of Kandahar game:



Thanks guys.

So, in effect I'm going to have to scratch build one.

Could I ask a favour. I have downloaded the wiki pics but just so i can get a sense of scale for the 28mm crew could I please ask if when you manage to find the time could you take some side on horizontal and aerial view pictures of the whole gun please?

No rush or anything.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2020, 10:13:01 AM by Atheling »

Offline Jack Jones

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2020, 04:57:03 PM »
I am considering a 40pdr scratch build too, but for an armed train project.

The Wikipedia page has a dimensioned drawing of the barrel:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBL_40-pounder_Armstrong_gun



Cheers
JJ




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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2020, 09:47:10 PM »

« Last Edit: July 25, 2020, 09:55:37 PM by Rhingyll »

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2020, 09:52:47 PM »

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2020, 09:58:04 PM »

Offline Jack Jones

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2020, 08:13:25 AM »
Nice! How many of these were made?

Since I am planning something along these lines



I will need to make a suitable carriage.

Offline Atheling

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2020, 08:13:37 AM »
I am considering a 40pdr scratch build too, but for an armed train project.

The Wikipedia page has a dimensioned drawing of the barrel:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBL_40-pounder_Armstrong_gun



Cheers
JJ

Keep me up to speed on how you go about the construction JJ. I've never attempted to scratch build anything that is 'straight' line I and I don't mind admitting that I'm quite nervous of the idea- though the enthusiasm to get this build done it very high!

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Offline Mad Guru

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2020, 08:51:49 AM »
My good friend Rhingyll was another of we happy few 40 Pounder Bounders, so to speak, AKA: devoted Second Afghan War types.

Here's some comparison pics with a Perry screw-gun and I think an Old Glory field gun of the same era, alongside some hopefully handy measuring sticks:









RE: If they're currently available... I don't know, but I doubt it.  They were made in pretty limited number.  I will try to the email the maker and inquire.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2020, 09:39:42 AM by Mad Guru »

Offline Atheling

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2020, 09:07:15 AM »
Thanks for posting the pics MG- they have been added to the growing collection  8)

RE: If they're currently available... I don't know, but I doubt it.  They were made in pretty limited number.  I will try to the email the maker and inquire.

That would be enormously appreciated. The more I look at the RBL 40-pounder Armstrong gun the more daunting a prospect it is!

Online sjwalker51

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2020, 09:28:07 AM »
If there’s the possibility of another production run, I’d happily order a couple.

Offline Atheling

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Re: Second Afghan War Elephant Battery Guns?
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2020, 11:04:48 AM »
If there’s the possibility of another production run, I’d happily order a couple.

Indeed. I would certainly be up for ordering a few MG- if you could pass that on too please? :)

 

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