New Osprey Game - Flashpoint: Platoon Skirmishes in World War III

[NurgleHH]

I’m going to give the Empress BOHICA a go as I’ve seen them used for moderns before now

+1, it is a good development of their On-Page-Rules called Danger Close (I forgot the original name before Empress got them). D20 and easy to handle.
In the moment "flashpoint" is not interesting, becaause it is still not avaible. And no information about the delay. This is not really nice...

[Easy E]

As an Osprey author myself, I will say due dates change based on so many different things.  Just know that the lead time on any given book is about 2 years.... at least.  In that time, a lot of things can happen that moves the final publication dates around.

[NurgleHH]

As an Osprey author myself, I will say due dates change based on so many different things.  Just know that the lead time on any given book is about 2 years.... at least.  In that time, a lot of things can happen that moves the final publication dates around.

You are right, that a lot can change and happen. But it is not forbidden to talk with the customers. This is really missing. No one got information and this is very bad (and unfair for the customers).

[Arrigo]

Well,

they talk... as I previously said I sent an-email to them and got an answer. Jamie had decided in agreement with the series editors to postpone publication. They have no firm date do tell me. But the book is still on their list.

Said that a lot of issues came not so much from osprey but from Amazon that, Frankly, had an unrealistic release date considering playtest started in fall 2021. It isnot the first time they (amazon)  messed up publication dates by years.

Best,
Arrigo

[Legiocustodes]

Hi everyone.

It is the author here; sorry for the delayed response; my full time jobs have been very busy. Just to give you an update; I have been in contact with the publisher and the decision is still in place to push back the release date for now. The current date shown (2027 I believe) is only a placeholder date, but it will be out long before then.

I know this is an emotive issue, but as a soldier myself I am in total agreement with the publisher that it is not entirely appropriate to release a game whose setting and context is very similar to a situation in which people are currently dying in the real world. This is less about offending people and more about showing respect for what is a terrible real world event.

I am really keen to get the game published and out there as soon as it is appropriate and respectful to do so. I have spent a long time (2 years) working on this; so as you can imagine I share your feelings about the delay.

I hope you can understand and empathise with the position we have taken.

[gimzod]

Thanks for the update.

[Easy E]

Thanks for the update.

[S_P]

+1, it is a good development of their On-Page-Rules called Danger Close (I forgot the original name before Empress got them). D20 and easy to handle.
In the moment "flashpoint" is not interesting, becaause it is still not avaible. And no information about the delay. This is not really nice...

It was previously called 'Some Corner of a Forgotten Field'

[Ultravanillasmurf]

I know this is an emotive issue, but as a soldier myself I am in total agreement with the publisher that it is not entirely appropriate to release a game whose setting and context is very similar to a situation in which people are currently dying in the real world. This is less about offending people and more about showing respect for what is a terrible real world event.

I think that is a reasonable attitude.

Said that a lot of issues came not so much from osprey but from Amazon that, Frankly, had an unrealistic release date considering playtest started in fall 2021. It isnot the first time they (amazon)  messed up publication dates by years.

Or messed up the fact the product was not going to be available from Amazon (or anyone other than direct from the publisher) at all.
Amazon scrape ISBN data, and if you apply for an ISBN number, Amazon (other booksellers are also guilty) will add it to their lists.

I am sure someone on this forum (or more likely his former business partner) had great difficulties trying to get a rule book removed from Amazon lists because they would not be selling it through them and there was concern that this unavailability would reflect on the product (especially if Amazon was taking money for the product).

[NurgleHH]

It was previously called 'Some Corner of a Forgotten Field'

Thank you

[Daeothar]

Still interested in the setting/game, even though it's on a (possible?) indefinite hiatus.

However; I just came across a presentation for a Mars Figures 1/72 set called 'Ukrainian Defenders'. And with Mars Figures in fact being a Ukranian company themselves, I'm just wondering how relevant the current hiatus actually is.

Not to be insensitive, but we've seen many games depicting certain conflicts that were still ongoing when they were released. Think Spectre Ops, Skirmish Sangin or Force on Force for instance. And Flashpoint is not even directly depicting a current conflict, but rather a hypothetical one, with both of the belligerents in the current conflict even fighting on one side (were Ukranian forces actually taken into account in any Red Block offensive plans? I honestly don't know).

Anyway, what I was trying to say here is; has there been any news on the game and a possible release date yet?

[carlos marighela]

Indeed, the purported rationale sounds like utter bollox to me. You can legitimately pose questions about the appropriateness of games set in actual ongoing conflicts but I doubt their potential market is going to conflate what is going on in Ukraine today with a game set in the late 20th C about a fictional conflict.

[AKULA]

has there been any news on the game and a possible release date yet?

This.

Still interested in seeing these rules