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Author Topic: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - Whole army shots with scenery P.3. Feb 16  (Read 5079 times)

Offline Ockius

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I have been very much enjoying researching and putting together this army, and thought I'd post it as it seems hard to come by images of this particular force, especially in 15mm. I struggled to find many images when I was researching (though must credit the man behind the Stuart's Workbench blog for his excellent work converting this army in 28mm).

The painting is decent tabletop standard (I hope) rather that anything that will wow you  ;)

The idea is this is an army for the 1510s-1520s, so the 1513 invasion of France led by Henry (also the 1513 Flodden campaign that happened when the Scots invaded while he was away), and then in the 1520s there was a small raid in 1522, big campaign in 1523 and a further invasion planned for 1525 that never happened, all against France.

I'll post things now and then as I am working on them, for anyone who is interested.

First lot:
Billmen in white coats, by Khurasan, who do the perfect range for this particular period of Henry's reign. These guys were basically levies from the Shires. Most parishes provided a man or two, as well as his arms and gear, but the Crown provided a white uniform coat, which I have done with green trim - the Tudor colour.

« Last Edit: February 16, 2021, 10:22:00 AM by Ockius »
My armies:
- Henry VIII's army (WIP) 15mm
- Ancient Germans (28mm)
- Ancient Belgae (Gauls with German allies) (28mm)
- Massilian Greeks (Greeks and Gallic mercenaries/subjects) (28mm)
- A few EI Romans (28mm)
- Handful of WW2 British (15mm)
- A load of old 1993-1999ish Warhammer Orcs and Goblins

Offline Ockius

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2020, 01:09:12 PM »
....and the first few bowmen.

There will be lots more of these to come.

Also by Khurasan. In the uniform coats, and I've done them with red caps and quivers, as apparently the Earl of Northumberland, Henry Percy, who contributed a lot of men and resource to the invasion of France, kitted his men out with red and black accessories in his house colours.


Offline OB

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2020, 01:25:55 PM »
Very good to see these figures.  In terms of size how do they compare to Essex 15mm?

Offline nonsuch

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2020, 03:10:20 PM »
Beautiful job on those 15s!

Offline Ockius

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2020, 03:36:27 PM »
Very good to see these figures.  In terms of size how do they compare to Essex 15mm?

These are all a good 2-3mm taller. I bought some longbowmen from Essex and they are I think too small to put in the same unit (almost a head shorter) and I've decided not to use the Essex (I only bought one pack). I could post a size comparison at some point if you like.

Offline Ockius

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2020, 03:36:43 PM »

Offline OB

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2020, 05:11:30 PM »
These are all a good 2-3mm taller. I bought some longbowmen from Essex and they are I think too small to put in the same unit (almost a head shorter) and I've decided not to use the Essex (I only bought one pack). I could post a size comparison at some point if you like.

That's dead helpful Ockius, a comparison photo would be brilliant.

Offline Ockius

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2020, 08:18:08 PM »
That's dead helpful Ockius, a comparison photo would be brilliant.

Here we go. I suppose it depends how fussy one is about size difference.

Left to right:
Museum - Khurasan - Essex - Museum - Essex - Khurasan

Offline OB

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2020, 12:16:53 AM »
Much appreciated Ockius thank you.  They are much bigger than the khurasan figures I have,  From what you have posted they would be a good fit with the QRF Tudor Bill men.  I have the Museum figure you used and that makes it easy to compare.  Those Khurasan archers are too good to miss.

Offline Mr.J

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2020, 11:43:19 AM »
Wow they are huge! Surely they are more like 18mm? Lovely looking minis tho.

Offline Ockius

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2020, 04:55:49 PM »
Wow they are huge! Surely they are more like 18mm? Lovely looking minis tho.

I am fairly new to 15mm, but from what I’ve seen it seems the newer ones are 15mm to eyes, rather  than top of head, so maybe 17mm ish if we’re being exact. Having said that, they fit well with the Altuos range sold by Alternative Armies, and the Donnington New Era range. Will post some of those eventually.

Offline Ockius

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2020, 05:06:32 PM »
Now some of the mercenaries.
Landsknechts, mostly by Museum. These are tall, chunky, cartoony sculpts. Nice to paint, clear detail.
There are also a number of Old Glory chaps too (you can tell them by the thinner pikes that had to have hands drilled out for them). These fit quite well, but are quite different and harder work to prepare and paint. They add good variety though as Museum only do a few pike variants.

I’ve done them with a banner of the town of Buren (not sure if the Germany or Netherlands one) where Henry got a contingent of landsknechts from in both 1523 and 1544, I believe under two successive counts of Buren.

These guys were seen as an important source of pikemen for the English, who had few homegrown pike wielders, but they were apparently quite troublesome allies on campaign.

Offline Patrice

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2020, 05:54:35 PM »
there was a small raid in 1522

Superb, and quite an unusual subject.

You mean the raid at Morlaix I suppose. :) Technically, Brittany was not yet united with France, although already under the same crown.  :D

Offline Ockius

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2020, 07:17:16 PM »
Superb, and quite an unusual subject.

You mean the raid at Morlaix I suppose. :) Technically, Brittany was not yet united with France, although already under the same crown.  :D

I must admit, I don’t know much about it! I was just checking the dates of campaigns and it was mentioned. I have read more about the 1513, 1523 and 1544 campaigns.

Offline Patrice

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Re: My Early Henrician 15mm army (WIP) - post 1 bills and bows
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2020, 09:20:35 PM »
I must admit, I don’t know much about it! I was just checking the dates of campaigns and it was mentioned. I have read more about the 1513, 1523 and 1544 campaigns.

 lol I just mentioned it for pleasure, actually the Bretons were already fighting on the French side since a few years, as before at the famous (um, probably famous only locally) naval battle of St-Matthieu in 1512.

 

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