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Post-Brexit online sales INTO the UK - who is VAT registered?
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Silent Invader:
Re UK imports under £135, this from the BBC today might be relevant
--- Quote ---The UK government has delayed similar procedures for imports into the UK. But from 1 April the right paperwork will need to be filed, and from 1 July full checks and controls are due to begin.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55831263
Edit: Further reading suggests the delays might only apply to inbound at-border customs checks on coding and certification etc, rather than VAT due, but it’s hard to find a reliable source of info.
Andrew Rae:
--- Quote from: Silent Invader on February 01, 2021, 12:49:33 PM ---Re UK imports under £135, this from the BBC today might be relevant
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55831263
Edit: Further reading suggests the delays might only apply to inbound at-border customs checks on coding and certification etc, rather than VAT due, but it’s hard to find a reliable source of info.
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Yeah I don't think that particular quote applies as it was in a section about food. However, I'm sure I did read somewhere about HMRC delaying full implementation of the rules (in regards to forced VAT registration and fines I think) but I can't find it again.
That Royal Mail are no longer collecting VAT on anything under £135 is a definite though - it's in the HMRC info I linked to. So it's nice to know I can order from any ROW mini company and know I won't have VAT and a handling fee charged by Royal Mail, if my order is under £135.
Less appealing is knowing that my order is potentially going towards a VAT bill and fines for that company, somewhere down the line. And there's always the potential my order would be returned or destroyed, though I would get my refund through Paypal I guess.
zemjw:
I've been avoiding buying from outside the UK for a while now, but bought a couple of art prints at the weekend from Germany. The total came to just under £100.
The order details included a VAT total if I left the country as Germany. When I switched to UK the VAT component was zeroed, but the total price didn't decrease to compensate (in fact, it went up slightly as the p&p to the UK is more).
I've emailed the artist to check if that's the expected behaviour. Reading some of the stuff here suggests they may be keeping the money to pay a future VAT bill, but you'd think it would still be reported on the order form as VAT in that case.
Andrew Rae:
--- Quote from: zemjw on July 05, 2021, 10:14:51 AM ---I've been avoiding buying from outside the UK for a while now, but bought a couple of art prints at the weekend from Germany. The total came to just under £100.
The order details included a VAT total if I left the country as Germany. When I switched to UK the VAT component was zeroed, but the total price didn't decrease to compensate (in fact, it went up slightly as the p&p to the UK is more).
I've emailed the artist to check if that's the expected behaviour. Reading some of the stuff here suggests they may be keeping the money to pay a future VAT bill, but you'd think it would still be reported on the order form as VAT in that case.
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It could just be that their net prices don't change depending on VAT. So the customer is charged the same if VAT is 19%, 21% or, if the customer is outside the EU, 0%. Shops can be set up that way if the seller wishes.
zemjw:
Just had a reply from the artist and that is what they have done. They send off the vat amount for local/eu sales, and keep it and increase their profit for international sales (they actually said that specifically in the response).
However, given that the price does include local vat, it still means I'm going to get hit with double vat charges - actually slightly more than double due to the joys of compound maths :(
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