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Offline Thew2

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Re: WOTR thats not WOTR
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2022, 10:51:18 PM »
The Percy-Neville feud just pre-wotr is pretty interesting, and came to blows several times. In 1453, at Heworth Moor, younger sons of Lord Percy, along with hundreds of retainers/supporters, attacked a Neville wedding party.  Further raids and counter-raids took place in the following months.  Another larger conflict at Stamford bridge in 1454 ended this phase of the families feuding, and Egremont was captured and imprisoned.

There's also another feud that occured in Yorkshire in the 1440s, between the Archbishop Kemp and the Percy family. The Archbishop ended up recruiting border reivers/ruffians to police the city of Ripon and enforce tolls at markets/fairs.  Locals from Knaresborough, who should have been exempt from such tolls, were not too happy and ambushed the reivers at Thornton Bridge.

I found this PhD by Mark Punshon very useful for details on the above.

https://etheses.whiterose.ac.uk/2454/1/DX223236.pdf



Offline Thew2

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Re: WOTR thats not WOTR
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2022, 11:13:36 PM »
For conflicts on the borders, and into Scotland, the Douglases beat up the Percys at the battle of Sark, in 1448.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sark

The Black and Red branches of the Douglas family also carried on a feud, with disastrous consequences for the more senior Black line, at the battle of Arkinholm in 1455.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arkinholm

I've always thought this period of Scottish history is very interesting!

« Last Edit: February 15, 2022, 11:17:11 PM by Thew2 »

Offline Black Burt

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Re: WOTR thats not WOTR
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2022, 01:57:47 PM »
[quote As a further question on the excellent replies which is much appreciated.
Is there a good reference to how a Scottish army would appear at this time?
Breakdown of troops with or without kilt? Any suggested range which would suit, that sort of thing if people can share.
[/quote]

The Osprey Book on the Battle of Flodden 1513, though a bit later would probably give you an idea on Scottish appearance.
Most lowland Scots would look much like their English counterparts.
Highlanders would probably be wearing yellow tunics or leines, the great kilt was developed in the 16th century  and the modern small kilt even later.
Happy to be corrected if I am wrong.

 

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