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Author Topic: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???  (Read 4255 times)

Offline cuprum

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Re: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2021, 01:01:46 PM »
Thanks. I didn't know that.

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Re: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2021, 07:15:47 PM »
Good information,thanx.

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Re: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2021, 07:44:13 PM »
Superb thread.

You probably know this document (in French) from the French military photographers mission in Siberia and Northern Russia, 1918-19. Some pictures included, not many about French troops, in fact they were more interested in local pictures and Czech troops etc. so it will not help much for details of this project, but it's fascinating.

http://archives.ecpad.fr/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/spca.pdf

I'm currently painting a WW1 French staff officers set from Great War Miniatures which could (except the cuirassier colonel) be quite acceptable to represent general Janin or other French officers advisers on the Russian tsarist side, who still may have been wearing such uniforms (?)

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Re: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2021, 05:33:08 AM »
Yes, I have this document. But thanks anyway for your willingness to help.

I have a poor quality photo of officers from a French military mission in Siberia in 1919. On it, Captain Suben (I may not accurately reproduce the surname from the Russian language) definitely has a "colored" uniform, and it can also be assumed that General Janin has such a uniform.
There is another photo, which was called "French soldiers in Vladivostok", but I cannot guarantee the correctness of this name.




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Re: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2021, 09:00:07 PM »
Yes, I have this document. But thanks anyway for your willingness to help.

I have a poor quality photo of officers from a French military mission in Siberia in 1919. On it, Captain Suben (I may not accurately reproduce the surname from the Russian language) definitely has a "colored" uniform, and it can also be assumed that General Janin has such a uniform.
There is another photo, which was called "French soldiers in Vladivostok", but I cannot guarantee the correctness of this name.





The Roman Alphabet spelling may possibly be "Subban", which is an older French surname (which is now a lot more common in French-speaking African countries than it ever was in France).

I am not certain though!


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Re: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2021, 12:50:01 AM »
The photo is from Grondijs's book La guerre en Russie et en Sibérie.

https://archive.org/stream/laguerreenrussie00gronuoft#page/504/mode/2up

It is Captain Souben.


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Re: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2021, 09:22:57 AM »
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« Last Edit: February 01, 2021, 09:34:38 AM by pacofeanor »

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Re: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2021, 09:33:18 AM »
Yes, I have this document. But thanks anyway for your willingness to help.

I have a poor quality photo of officers from a French military mission in Siberia in 1919. On it, Captain Suben (I may not accurately reproduce the surname from the Russian language) definitely has a "colored" uniform, and it can also be assumed that General Janin has such a uniform.
There is another photo, which was called "French soldiers in Vladivostok", but I cannot guarantee the correctness of this name.






Hello, the guy on left(with number 191 on the collar)  with dark jacket seems to be an infantry officer wearing the old fashion 1892 jacket ( and surely red tripped in black trousers .

It is allowed , for officers,  to wear these jacket in parad dress, this is the pre-1914 jacket. The general seems to wear the same!

On the field, "line"infantry wear the horizon blue dress except chasseurs à pieds/alpins (the case of the second photo with chasseurs NCO wearing specific marks on sleeves )  wich wear a dark blue dress and helmets with horizon blue coat,

-north african troops (zouaves, tirailleurs, spahis, chasseurs d'afrique, FFL and bataillons d'infanterie légère d'afrique) wich wear kaki dress.

Colonial troops  are a bit complex, they should wear the kaki but most of them had the old fashion horizon blue dress. Only senegalese tiraillereurs wear always kaki sets.

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Re: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2021, 08:51:10 PM »
The photo is from Grondijs's book La guerre en Russie et en Sibérie.

https://archive.org/stream/laguerreenrussie00gronuoft#page/504/mode/2up

It is Captain Souben.
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Re: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2021, 11:01:27 AM »
Been reading a history of the French Foreign Legion. They really have been given some shit jobs over the years.
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Re: French Foreign Legion Uniforms for BOB ???
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2021, 01:13:20 PM »
When in doubt, I turn to be most reliable  lol source of information....The opening scene of The Mummy   :D ;)
« Last Edit: February 13, 2021, 01:17:15 PM by Johnno »
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