Author Topic: What’s missing for 5th Century Greeks (Read 6970 times)

Samuel · « **Reply #30 on:** March 14, 2021, 04:50:05 PM »

Quote from: Tonhel on March 14, 2021, 12:03:23 PM

I think he looks very good. Will those digital files be available to buy?

That’s the plan. I’m hoping to do some things that are possible with modern resin printers that were not with metal or plastic casting.

I’m working with a number of different sculptors to do different units, probably to do an STL Kickstarter or something. I’m also working up a series of scenarios to do an escalation league for the period. I think that’s one of the main barriers to entry for historicals. It always feels like you have to buy and paint 100 guys before the first battle.

I’m pretty focused on Greeks at the moment, I’ve read half a dozen books on the period in the last few weeks, and I really want to get this down. I appreciate the other suggestions though... maybe next year

Tim Haslam · « **Reply #31 on:** March 14, 2021, 05:51:16 PM »

Good luck with the venture, apologies for having a moan about Indians!

Thanks Jeff.

Samuel · « **Reply #32 on:** March 15, 2021, 03:16:35 PM »

Quote from: Tim Haslam on March 14, 2021, 05:51:16 PM

Good luck with the venture, apologies for having a moan about Indians!

Thanks Jeff.

No worries. I’m interested in Indians too, but you’ve got to start somewhere and I’ve been disappointed in the Greek ranges. Currently reworking the place where the sling attaches to the hand because it’s just a touch too delicate. Otherwise the first test prints are good.

Anyone here have a 3d printer and want to try some test prints?

Eoin OCnaimhsi · « **Reply #33 on:** March 19, 2021, 03:45:09 PM »

That Slinger model looks fantastic.

I make and use slings myself so I have an appreciation of the humble sling many may not.

You have it braided which is right, there are definitely historical references to Greek slings being of braided "hair", although more likely of plant fibres.

Not sure how practical it may be to implement but the the retention cord usually goes on the slingers middle finger, and as you have, the release cord goes between the index and thumb. That may actually make the join stronger on the figure.

What about a pouch or bag for the glandes(stones)?
If you are sculpting stones, say in the pouch of the sling for example, the size obviously varies but the ideal size of shot is about the size and shape of a chickens egg, so not pebbles.

has.been · « **Reply #34 on:** March 19, 2021, 08:58:33 PM »

The first lad I ever wargamed with (Oscar are you out there?)
used to on about his Balearic slingers.
They had three slings. Short range, worn as a head band.
Medium range, worn around the waist &
Long range , worn as a bandolier.

Also the young trainees used to have their 'packed lunch'
placed on a nearby wall. They were not allowed to eat it
until they had hit it with a slingshot.

aphillathehun · « **Reply #35 on:** March 20, 2021, 03:39:37 AM »

Quote from: Tim Haslam on March 14, 2021, 12:16:11 PM

I’m with the others on this, Lydian Hoplites for example, would be useful.
Plus the various Persian marines deployed in the period.

I’m still stunned that no one produces a decent plastic Indian range?
An infantry box,
An elephant box,
A mixed chariot/basic cav box.

Aventine do wonderful but only two elephants!

Sorry, I’ve hijacked the thread!

But really, basic Indian troop types should be easy stuff to create in 3D?
From a purely business perspective, producing yet more Greeks, whilst I’m sure they’ll be lovely, will just give you loads of competition?
Whereas Indians are very sadly lacking at the moment.
Plus they are hugely popular.

Not plastic, but Watchful I had some really interesting looking Mauryan Indian figures. I don't think they ever came to market:

https://www.watchfulistudio.com/mauryan-empire-project.html

has.been · « **Reply #36 on:** March 20, 2021, 07:16:45 AM »

Shame about those Watchful figures.

Fremitus Borealis · « **Reply #37 on:** March 20, 2021, 07:35:51 AM »

Wow! Yeah those designs are amazing! If they were available I would definitely pick some up.

Tim Haslam · « **Reply #38 on:** March 20, 2021, 05:42:54 PM »

Wow!
Perfect!
So what happened to them?

aphillathehun · « **Reply #39 on:** March 21, 2021, 02:29:03 PM »

I don't know. They were the next big release for the longest time, but that's all that's on their website now....

Tim Haslam · « **Reply #40 on:** March 21, 2021, 08:12:09 PM »

Argh!!

Tonhel · « **Reply #41 on:** April 01, 2021, 05:48:22 AM »

Quote from: Samuel on March 15, 2021, 03:16:35 PM

No worries. I’m interested in Indians too, but you’ve got to start somewhere and I’ve been disappointed in the Greek ranges. Currently reworking the place where the sling attaches to the hand because it’s just a touch too delicate. Otherwise the first test prints are good.

Anyone here have a 3d printer and want to try some test prints?

I recently have bought a 3D printer (Phrozen Sonic Mini 4K), So I would certainly want to test print it. I agree about what you said about what is possible with 3D printers now. I printed a couple of Spanish 11th century knights and I see the benefits compared with resin or metal mini's. The quality is as good as resin miniature, but less parts to assemble and the sculptor don't have to think about how it can be moulded. So the sculptor doesn't has to compromise to get the mini cast.

Samuel · « **Reply #42 on:** April 02, 2021, 05:34:54 PM »

Check your PMs, Tonhel! I’ll send you a file to print.

Tonhel · « **Reply #43 on:** April 02, 2021, 08:51:32 PM »

Quote from: Samuel on April 02, 2021, 05:34:54 PM

Check your PMs, Tonhel! I’ll send you a file to print.

Have you pmed me?

Samuel · « **Reply #44 on:** April 06, 2021, 01:28:23 AM »

Yes. Let me know if you didn’t get it. I basically asked for your email address so I could send the file.

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