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Offline Rogerc

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Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« on: March 25, 2021, 03:08:44 PM »
Chattign to another wargamer launching into this period I felt inspired to get the figures out and see where the gaps might be and think about next steps, it made sense to get  afew pictures at the same time and load up a new blog post so for anyone interested you can find photos and deails here:

https://gapagnw.blogspot.com/2021/03/reviewing-elizabethan-ireland-project.html

EE13 by Roger Castle, on Flickr
EE8 by Roger Castle, on Flickr
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My blog gapagnw.blogspot.co.uk

Offline Dave Knight

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2021, 04:47:08 PM »
Excellent

Following your blog :D

I have some plans to do something similar at some point, but probably not for a year or two

What rules do you intend to use?

Offline Rogerc

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2021, 05:36:12 PM »
I am currently thinking the Sharp Practice Varient Sahrply Buffed or Pikemans Lament. I am open to other systems though, I am keen to capture the flavour of Irish Warfare.

Offline SJWi

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2021, 05:58:29 PM »
RogerC, you may want to look at the ruleset "Irregular Wars; Conflict at the World's End".  I don't own them myself but was recommended them earlier this year for "Conquistadore" warfare.  Reading the review they are aimed at non-mainstream 16-17th century, and Ireland is specifically mentioned.

Regards.

Offline Rogerc

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2021, 06:10:52 PM »
Cheers for that SJWi that wa sin the back of my mind and I couldnt remember the name of it, definately oen to try. Keeping the figures individually based for now then I can r-think it dpending on the rules we eventually go with.

Offline fred

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2021, 07:23:09 PM »
Those are some cracking looking figures.

Irregular Wars is well worth a look, it provides a great game. It is aimed at 15mm or so figures, but it is all Base Width driven, so should work with 28mm figures.

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2021, 08:25:58 PM »
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Excellent

Following your blog :D

I have some plans to do something similar at some point, but probably not for a year or two

What rules do you intend to use?

Plus one to that.

Offline Hu Rhu

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2021, 09:20:34 PM »
Nice figures on your blog.  Looking forward to seeing how this develops.

Offline OB

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2021, 11:30:48 PM »
Very nice Roger.

In terms of rules I think a very good game could be had from an adapted set of "Bill Hooks".

For the latest, and I'd say best, scholarship to date James O'Neill The Nine Years War is the book to read.

Good luck with the project.

Offline mmcv

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2021, 12:39:06 AM »
Very nice project, it's one on my to-do list as well. I'd not come across the Sharply Buffed variant before, very interesting. I just last week got a copy of Sharpe Practice but still to try them out for myself, but from what I've seen of them it could work well.

Offline Rogerc

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2021, 10:13:30 AM »
Thanks for the idead guys, I adnt considered Never mind the Billhooks.

mmcv Sharp Practice is one of my favourites, love how it plays, Sharply Buffed would likely work well but at the same time may feel a bit samey givn the other periods I use it for, lots of food for thought thank you.

Irish to follow at soem point soon.

Offline OB

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2021, 11:02:59 AM »
I may write a Nine Years War version of Bill Hooks for my own entertainment.  If I get round to it I'll post it here when it's done  It's really a war of two halves as far as English arms and equipment go. They start with heavy pike men and lots of muskets.  They finish with lighter pike men and all calivers.

Offline Eoin OCnaimhsi

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2021, 02:11:39 PM »
Seconded, Nine Years War by James O'Neill is great.

I had previously followed your blog. It was a great help for my own(never to be finished!) project.

Perhaps a little later than the period you have done but have you looked at or done any Irish Pike or Calivers?

Offline Rogerc

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2021, 10:11:17 PM »
So no Irish Pike, I dont plan to do any rreally, I want the forces to look Irish, I have however got some firearms using both the Wars of the Roses Irish with firearms and a bunch of conversions, I could do with some more.

The Gallowglass will provide the heavy infantry rather than Pike.

Offline caveadsum1471

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Re: Review of the Elizabethan Ireland Project so far
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2021, 07:18:47 AM »
Great looking English, I look forward to seeing the gallowglass and kern, I've done my Flodden Highlanders with half a mind of shifting them to Ireland at some future scale creep moment!
Best Iain

 

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