TMWWBK - Samurai Expansion Announced

[Mr. White]

I know many have been looking for Lion Rampant-family rules to use for Japanese armies, but I thought it was generally agreed upon to use Pikeman's Lament.

University of Edinburgh getting busy in the wargame field. ha!

(Should this be mentioned in the Adventures In The Far East forum as well? is that double posting?)

[fred]

Interesting - and a much after period than is typically gamed, which is why I suspect TMWBK is used as the base game

Typically Pikeman’s Lament is being used for Sengoku era battles - which makes sense as they are from the same period.

[Emir of Askaristan]

Ahh...sh*t......well there's no excuse now is there! 

Seriously though I am looking forward to this coming out. TMWWBK is the perfect set to explore this conflict - a clash of the ancient and the modern seasoned with a strong feeling of lost cause.

What's not to like!

[commissarmoody]

Looking forward to this.

[AdmiralAndy]

Interesting - and a much after period than is typically gamed, which is why I suspect TMWBK is used as the base game

Typically Pikeman’s Lament is being used for Sengoku era battles - which makes sense as they are from the same period.

Pikemans Lament is indeed to date the goto for those gaming Samurai with the Rampant stable of rules. Especially since there are army lists provided and a follow up expanding article was published in an issue of Wargames Soldiers Strategy.

What I would point out that is maybe being missed about why TMWWBKs being used is that was written solely by Mr Mersey, Pikemans was co-authored with Michael Leck who is not employed or associated with Edinburgh Universaty at present.

My view is that it fits better in the fortcoming edition then roll with it, or adapt the ideas to Pikemans. There close enough core system that switching up or using the ideas shouldn't really cause an either or situation.

[jon_1066]

I would have thought it more likely that it is simply that the Satsuma Rebellion is in the timescale of TMWWBK (later 19th Century) rather than the 16th-17th century of Pikeman's Lament which fits the timescale of the Sengoku period.

[traveller]

I would have thought it more likely that it is simply that the Satsuma Rebellion is in the timescale of TMWWBK (later 19th Century) rather than the 16th-17th century of Pikeman's Lament which fits the timescale of the Sengoku period.

Spot on 

This should be a boost for:

http://bacninhminiatures.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-last-samurai-from-fiction-to-reality.html?m=1

[fred]

I would have thought it more likely that it is simply that the Satsuma Rebellion is in the timescale of TMWWBK (later 19th Century) rather than the 16th-17th century of Pikeman's Lament which fits the timescale of the Sengoku period.

Exactly and much more clearly put than what I wrote a few posts above.

The problem is that referring to anything as ‘Samurai xxx’ is problematic as it can cover 100s of years.

[Matakakea]

Time to find those heads I bought from Raukrota and start converting some artillery for this.

[AdmiralAndy]

I would have thought it more likely that it is simply that the Satsuma Rebellion is in the timescale of TMWWBK (later 19th Century) rather than the 16th-17th century of Pikeman's Lament which fits the timescale of the Sengoku period.

That's a good point, I'd kinda missed the date focuing on the word Samurai, but TMWWBKs would be more fitting for a Cruise Samurai type set up than a Chamberlain Pikemans Shogun.

Tricksy historical dating.