*
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
May 16, 2022, 09:36:27 PM

Login with username, password and session length

Donate

We Appreciate Your Support

Recent

Author Topic: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics  (Read 1222 times)

Online Silent Invader

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 8856
Re: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2021, 02:25:03 PM »
What is very clear from this thread is that while brand and applicator style varies everyone is using plastic cement for plastic kits. And this is a good thing it gives a much better bond than super glue.

Polystyrene cement for polystyrene kits….. I think I see the connection  :D
My LAF Gallery is HERE
Minis finished in 2022 = 90
Minis finished in 2021 = 123

Online Ogrob

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1566
Re: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2021, 03:08:04 PM »
I still do most of my plastics with superglue. Hate the smell of plastic cement and not to fussed about bond strength, but happy to accept that I'm an odd duck in this.

Offline AKULA

  • Supporting Adventurer
  • Galactic Brain
  • *
  • Posts: 5500
Re: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2021, 04:04:36 PM »
I still do most of my plastics with superglue. Hate the smell of plastic cement and not to fussed about bond strength, but happy to accept that I'm an odd duck in this.

Ditto

 :)
     

Offline SteveBurt

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1120
Re: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2021, 11:12:45 AM »
Polystyrene cement (I use the Humbrol liquid) welds the parts together. Much stronger than superglue, which smells much worse than polystyrene cement IMO.

Offline bluewillow

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1663
  • Bluewillow- Matthew Williamson
    • L'Hotel de Hercé, French Wargame Holidays Stay-Tour-Wargame-Relax
Re: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2021, 07:04:02 AM »
A big fan of Faller professional polystyrene cement.

Cheers
Matt
"Walk the battlefield in the morning,
Wargame in the afternoon"™
From Caesar to WW2 at French Wargame Holidays

2022 deals available now for your holiday in France

Offline Shahbahraz

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1245
    • A Lead Odyssey
Re: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2021, 07:23:14 PM »
For those who weren't aware and using the Rubicon kits, they aren't actually polystyrene, they are ABS and so the standard polystyrene cements won't work well. You have to use a proper ABS glue like 'Plastic Magic'.

I spent ages wondering why bits of my Rubicon kits would actually fall off after being glued. 
Wargaming since the dark ages...

---https://aleadodyssey.blogspot.com/---

Offline Harry Faversham

  • Scatterbrained Genius
  • Posts: 3430
Re: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2021, 01:03:17 AM »
In my experience, Rubicon kits go together exactly the same with Humbrol liquid Poly. If yours are falling to bits S...
you're not bunging enough on!

;D
"Wot did you do in the war Grandad?"

"I was with Harry... At The Bridge!"

Offline dadlamassu

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1340
    • http://www.morvalearth.co.uk
Re: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2021, 07:57:41 AM »
For those who weren't aware and using the Rubicon kits, they aren't actually polystyrene, they are ABS and so the standard polystyrene cements won't work well. You have to use a proper ABS glue like 'Plastic Magic'.

I spent ages wondering why bits of my Rubicon kits would actually fall off after being glued.

OP was specific that his question was about Perry Plastics.  That aside I am not sure why this is happening to you.  The Rubicon kits I have built went together perfectly well with the Humbrol polystyrene cement from the tube.  Maybe it depends on how old your glue is?  Perhaps newer glues have a different formula to suit both polystyrene and ABS?   

From Humbrol/Airfix Website
Humbrol Poly Cement
Usage - A solvent-based cement suitable for plastic model kits only.
Substrate - Common plastics used to manufacture model kits including polystyrene and ABS. The product works by melting the plastic on application and ‘welding’ two glued pieces of plastic together to form a strong bond.
Application - Directly onto plastic model kits. A cocktail stick can be useful to apply sparingly to small areas or fine details.
Drying Time - Surface dry in 10-20 minutes. Fully dry in 1 hour.
How to Clean - Can be removed if not fully dry by re-dissolving with Humbrol Liquid Poly or Precision Poly. Product is permanent once dry.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2021, 08:01:24 AM by dadlamassu »
'He could have lived a risk-free, moneyed life, but he preferred to whittle away his fortune on warfare.'
-- Xenophon, The Anabasis

Offline Shahbahraz

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1245
    • A Lead Odyssey
Re: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2021, 08:06:13 AM »
If you are still squeezing it from a tube you are creating a bond of sorts. If you are relying on it chemically welding the parts together, then Tamiya, or the old Humbrol liquid will not work, nor will Revell Contacta. It will go together, the parts will apparently stick, but it will have nothing like the strength from using ABS glue.

This shouldn't be controversial or up for debate. It's chemistry.

Offline dadlamassu

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1340
    • http://www.morvalearth.co.uk
Re: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2021, 09:44:04 AM »
This shouldn't be controversial or up for debate.

As I said - OP asked about Perry miniatures which, as far as I am aware, are polystyrene and not ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene) models.  So I was not being controversial or debating. Issues with gluing ABS are irrelevant in this thread until or if Perry make their figures in ABS.  It is, however, relevant to making ABS models. 

Maybe you could start another helpful thread to reach those like me who did not know that Rubicon kits were ABS and who may be encountering the same issues that you have experienced?

Offline SteveBurt

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1120
Re: Best glue/solvent for Perry plastics
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2021, 10:46:56 AM »
The quote from the Humbrol website says the liquid cement works on polystyrene and ABS.  Which also seems to be the experience of some on here.

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
9 Replies
2639 Views
Last post January 27, 2010, 01:33:39 PM
by oxiana
21 Replies
6042 Views
Last post March 29, 2013, 09:59:59 PM
by fusilierdan
12 Replies
3075 Views
Last post October 02, 2013, 10:48:32 PM
by Captain Blood
1 Replies
1203 Views
Last post October 27, 2015, 02:02:48 PM
by Atheling
9 Replies
1607 Views
Last post October 13, 2016, 07:56:39 AM
by MattW