Vehicle scale best for 28mm figures?

[Arjuna]

Well, the only solution is of course several models in different scales, or better yet variations in dimensions.
So length in 1/43 and height in 1/50, or something like this, as I hinted at in my satirical post above about the fractal scale of one-inch miniatures.
So that leaves 3D printing.

The Kickstarter mentioned in this blog post seems to no longer exist, but perhaps digital files can be shared in solidarity among concerned parties:
https://thepaintingchallenge.blogspot.com/2020/02/from-martinn-wehrmacht-staff-car.html

 

[Grumpy Gnome]

Probably not and maybe.
I wouldn't trust what is claimed on the packaging for a nanosecond, even if it says so.
 

https://mercedes-benz-publicarchive.com/marsClassic/en/instance/ko.xhtml?oid=4284
The 170 V had a length of 4270mm.
In 1/43 that is 99.3mm and in 1/48 88.9mm.
So there is a difference of roughly one centimeter or about 10%.

In case it is really that important, you may ask here:
https://diecast43wwii.blogspot.com/2013/06/mersedes-170v-de-agostini-classic-armor.html
It doesn't look like the blog is maintained anymore, but maybe you'll get lucky.

Or on one of those diecast forums like this:
https://www.planetdiecast.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=showcat&catid=138&Itemid=0

I seem to remember, in my day there was a Larry Leadhead about this.
 

Good luck.
 

Arunja, thanks for the links, I will go have a look.

Wyrmalla, you have a lot more experience than I do in regards to model vehicles. It looks like I will need to learn the lessons you already have. But right now vehicles in 1/56 look too small to me with the 28mm figures I use.

[Tommy20]

Does anyone here own both the 1/48 scale New Millennium Toys MB 170V and the 1/43 scale Atlas MB 179V? Are they really two different sized models?

I ordered a 1/43 Atlas Autoblinda to try the size.

The 1/43 Atlas models are so much more affordable here in Germany.

The New Millennium one is 1:43, as were a couple of the other entries in that line.  The Atlas one looks like the same model to me.

[FramFramson]

Oh, and in your case Grumpy Gnome, is whether that car's 1/48th or 1/43rd not kind of moot? Your 28mm figures won't be able to shoot over the bonnet in either case. 

They might be able to if he's using full size plastic bases rather than washers or coins.

[Blackwolf]

Hopefully no one will mention aeroplanes. Oh bugger.

[Grumpy Gnome]

Arunja, looking at the blog link, I think Atlas is De Agostini… as well as Eaglemoss. And in those photos the De Agostini looks exactly the same size to me as the Armor Classic (which is also called New Millennium Toys). So at least one of those two marked scales appears to be off to me.

The Victoria looks the same size but is clearly a different model and the Victoria is marketed as 1/43 scale.

Frustrating.

[tereydavi]

I'm late to the Party, but want to help as much as I can...

I would go for anything from 1/48 to 1/43 because anything smaller than that is quite cartoonish besides 28mm miniatures.

Apart from that there is a problem as the scale varies widely even between vehicles from the same company (you'll see a BMW X6 the same size as a mini Cooper).

I made a post on this subject some time ago in my blog, with a few thoughts about It, some tips and a lot of pictures.

https://fearofthedarkskirmishwargame.blogspot.com/2021/03/cars-scales-and-wargames-terrain-and.html?m=1

I have a lot of Cars (modern, 20-40's, ww2...) From different companies but always stay as close as I can to 1/43.

[Cat]

Ah, mislabelled scales are definitely a thing I've come across before.  Some deep google-fu can sometimes get clarifications from collectors' forums.

[Grumpy Gnome]

Thanks Tereydavi, that is a helpful blog post. Particularly the photo of the Atlas vehicles with the 28mm figures.

It would be nice if labeled scale was consistent and accurate. It would save so much time and money.

[Arjuna]

So at least one of those two marked scales appears to be off to me.

And it doesn't end here.
 
It also could be 1/45 which is roughly O Scale, which just means it includes various scales between 1/48 and 1/43.
Of course, including the phenomenon of fractal scaling on the same model, I already mentioned twice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_scale

Depending on the market for which they pack the model, the indication of the scale on the packaging changes.
That is, if it says anything at all.

But don't despair, there are modelers who make cockpit canopies for their aircraft models themselves by pouring clear resin into lovingly hand-carved molds.
And polish them afterwards with wool.
So you're not even within sight of the gates of hell that I've witnessed.
 

But then again, life must have a meaning, right?
Waste it wisely.
 

P.S.
I mentioned aircraft models.
 

[Grumpy Gnome]

Madness.

[Arjuna]

Madness.

You've probably never seen a scale modeler cutting a 1/35 T34 in half with a high precision saw with a special blade and gluing it back together just because the model was about one milimeter too long.
Of course, you didn't noticed the cut afterwards because he spent hours puttying, sanding and polishing.

That is devotion!

A bit like painting on cobweb.

[Grumpy Gnome]

Ma… er yes, devotion. Devotion. *hat tip*

[tereydavi]

Thanks Tereydavi, that is a helpful blog post. Particularly the photo of the Atlas vehicles with the 28mm figures.

It would be nice if labeled scale was consistent and accurate. It would save so much time and money.

If you need more comparison pictures just ask for them, as I bought a few more vehicles (7-8 ww2 vehicles, 7-8 20-40's ones and a ton of modern vehicles including trucks...)

I think I have to update the blog post with more pictures...

[Tom Dulski]

I'm late to the Party, but want to help as much as I can...

I would go for anything from 1/48 to 1/43 because anything smaller than that is quite cartoonish besides 28mm miniatures.

Apart from that there is a problem as the scale varies widely even between vehicles from the same company (you'll see a BMW X6 the same size as a mini Cooper).

I made a post on this subject some time ago in my blog, with a few thoughts about It, some tips and a lot of pictures.

https://fearofthedarkskirmishwargame.blogspot.com/2021/03/cars-scales-and-wargames-terrain-and.html?m=1

 Very cool article, interesting blog as well.

I have a lot of Cars (modern, 20-40's, ww2...) From different companies but always stay as close as I can to 1/43.