Flags of War Reivers

[Paul Richardson]

 I was looking yesterday for TYW flags on the Flags of War website and I saw that they are bringing out via a Kickstarter a new range of reivers. My apologies if there's already been a thread about this, but I wasn't aware until yesterday.

[Atheling]

They are and they look to be stunning figures.

I'm going to jump in but I'm going to wait until the Kickstarter has played through. That's the way I usually go with these sorts of things. I'm happy to support but prefer to do it when all the miniatures have been released- or most of them at least.

If you cast your mind back Wargames Illustrated had some Border Reiver rules (by Chris Peers?).

I have to say, the miniatures do look mighty excellent Paul!



Link to the Kickstarter page should anyone be interested who wasn't aware of the project:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/funkyflags/border-wars-28mm-border-reiver-miniatures-and-rules

[majorsmith]

Oh wow they are nice!

[Paul Richardson]

I think I read somewhere that they have been produced digitally. I wonder whether that means that they lack a bit of character. I hope not but we'll see.

[Atheling]

I think I read somewhere that they have been produced digitally. I wonder whether that means that they lack a bit of character. I hope not but we'll see.

I suppose it's one of those things; unless you have the miniatures in your hand, you won't really know.

I do know that a few people I know now are producing historical miniatures digitally that are every bit as good as metals. I can't really name names as I'm sure I was told in confidence.

[Paul Richardson]

Yes, I've heard that too but I haven't seen any of the end product 'in the flesh', so to speak. I suspect that one issue may be that digitally-produced figures might not mix well with traditionally-produced figures. Another may be that we're so used to looking at traditionally-produced figures, with all their inaccuracies, that digitally-produced ones may look odd to our eyes, at least at first. I remember being disappointed when I first saw a Perry Miniatures figure - I thought it was too thin and its head was too small, compared with the 1980s figures I was then used to  - but now I can't get enough of them.

[Atheling]

Yes, I've heard that too but I haven't seen any of the end product 'in the flesh', so to speak. I suspect that one issue may be that digitally-produced figures might not mix well with traditionally-produced figures. Another may be that we're so used to looking at traditionally-produced figures, with all their inaccuracies, that digitally-produced ones may look odd to our eyes, at least at first. I remember being disappointed when I first saw a Perry Miniatures figure - I thought it was too thin and its head was too small, compared with the 1980s figures I was then used to  - but now I can't get enough of them.

Good point Paul. The aesthetics of miniatures is, I suppose, always in a state of flux really. I remember the first Perry plastics USA ACW Infantry and Cavalry and thinking "No!". That was now a while ago and for many years I have been very happy to buy plastics. In fact, many of the Perry plastic box sets have superior sculpting to some of the metals IMHO.

[majorsmith]

Still love the Jim Bowen range , these are lovely though

[Paul Richardson]

Beautifully painted too - by Andrew Taylor.

[Captain Blood]

They do look super. Very tempted - except I already have soooo many

I think I read somewhere that they have been produced digitally. I wonder whether that means that they lack a bit of character. I hope not but we'll see.

Yes, you can just tell can't you - although these do seem to have bundles of the character that often seems missing in digital sculpts. (Sometimes they just look a little unreal or lifeless somehow... Too perfect. But these look darned good).

Interestingly, I know that Nick Collier sculpted Iain's previous ranges. Perhaps if Iain's now gone digital, Nick might now have a little extra time on his hands. Which (selfishly, wearing my Bloody Miniatures hat) might not be all bad

The horses here look particularly good.

[Paul Richardson]

I was thinking that the horses looked particularly good too. Good horses are rare, imho.

[LeadAsbestos]

Knuckleduster miniatures are all digital sculpts and are hands down the best Old West minis you can buy, in my opinion.
It's the artist, not the medium.

[Paul Richardson]

Interesting. As an aside, I wonder whether Avanpost figures are sculpted digitally.

I rather like the look of some of the buildings which accompany the range, by the way. I suspect the windows on some of the cottages are a bit too modern, although that's easily fixed, and I like the pele tower and the bastle house.

[RedRowan]

Very tempted by this KS myself, miniatures look very nice. I think the sculptor is Rob Macfarlane who also did the Wargames Atlantic Conquistadors.

Steve