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Offline Westfalia Chris

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Re: Tangier Garrison fortifications
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2023, 07:47:52 AM »
It’s sad to see that the tendency to speak of abandoned things as “lost” isn’t a new habit by modern journalists and historians.

Whenever I hear of a “lost city” or a “lost civilization”, I usually find myself asking … who would lose something that big?  And, did the guy or gal get fired for their negligence?  :)

Dan

Mind, in this context and given the time it was written, it may just be a jingo-infected writer lamenting that England or Great Britain, resp., did not have one MORE colony. As in, "a wasted opportunity". So it would not really belong to the "Lost City/Continent/Civilization" trope.

Offline Mpanko

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Tangier Garrison fortifications - Spanish Horse
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2023, 09:32:22 PM »
I read in the Halket diary that there was a troop of Spanish cavalry supporting the English circa 1680.  I think they had all white uniforms to include their hats.  Anyone know anything more about them?  Thinking the Spanish horse out of the 1672 line is the right look….short of any uniform info

Offline peachey_c

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Re: Tangier Garrison fortifications - Spanish Horse
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2023, 11:18:20 PM »
"Tangier, England's lost Atlantic outpost, 1661-1684" by Routh
page 185
Apparently, they were from Catalan. No mention of uniforms that I can see.

"a treaty between England and Spain was signed at Windsor by
the Spanish Ambassador, Don Pedro de Ronquillos. In
view of the pressing need of cavalry at Tangier, and the
difficulty of transport from England, the King of Spain
gave orders for two hundred Catalan horse to be put at
Colonel Fairborne’s disposal; it was also arranged that
horses might be bought in Spain for the use of the Tangier troopers.
The Governor of Andalusia was requested to send the
Spanish troops to “a place they call Barbatt and Bologna
Bay,” which Herbert reported to be the most convenient
point of embarkation. The Admiral sent ships over for
their transport, and they arrived at Tangier just in time
to do gallant service in a victory over the Moors won at
the end of October."


They are mentioned a few times after that, search the text for 'Spanish.'

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Re: Tangier Garrison fortifications - Spanish Horse
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2023, 12:21:45 AM »
Fascinating maps when you compare them to the Google Maps satellite view it's still recognizable.  :o

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Re: Tangier Garrison fortifications - Spanish Horse
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2023, 09:52:57 AM »
Also English horse were raised, one troop followed by up to another three. According to Childs, initially equipped as horse but later as dragoons (they became the Royal Dragoons/ 1st Dragoons). That's how they served at Sedgemoor.
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Re: Tangier Garrison fortifications - Maritime Regimental Flags posted
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2023, 10:17:50 PM »
DUKE OF YORK AND ALBANY'S MARITIME REGIMENT OF FOOT flags are posted at the Flags of War

https://www.flagsofwar.com/collections/james-ii-army-1/products/monj21-duke-of-york-and-albanys-maritime-regiment-of-foot

I had read in another thread that these existed, made an inquiry and a bit later these were posted…  :D

I might go crazy and ask for some Moorish flags circa 1680… maybe even a Tangiers Adventure section to complete the niche…. lol

« Last Edit: July 25, 2023, 12:45:33 AM by Mpanko »

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Re: Tangier Garrison fortifications - Maritime Regimental Flags posted
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2023, 07:05:53 AM »
Handy for fighting the Dutch.

Offline Frostie

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Re: Tangier Garrison fortifications - Maritime Regimental Flags posted
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2023, 08:28:08 AM »
DUKE OF YORK AND ALBANY'S MARITIME REGIMENT OF FOOT flags are posted at the Flags of War

https://www.flagsofwar.com/collections/james-ii-army-1/products/monj21-duke-of-york-and-albanys-maritime-regiment-of-foot

I had read in another thread that these existed, made an inquiry and a bit later these were posted…  :D

I might go crazy and ask for some Moorish flags circa 1680… maybe even a Tangiers Adventure section to complete the niche…. lol

Founded in 1664, went on to become the Royal Marines

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: Tangier Garrison fortifications - Maritime Regimental Flags posted
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2023, 09:47:27 AM »
Well sort of, not quite, they were disbanded not long after Tangier. There were numerous units raised as for sea service  through the late 17thC and early 18thC. Most were disbanded at the end of hostilities. The booties really date to 1746, when the Admiralty took control of the existing regiments in sea service.

Offline Baron von Wreckedoften

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Re: Tangier Garrison fortifications - Maritime Regimental Flags posted
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2023, 07:53:43 PM »
Not 1755, when the Marines (later Royal Marines) were formed?

Must admit, I didn't know the Admiralty had taken on responsibility for all marine units in 1746, so you may be right, but the 1755 unit is the only one with an unbroken line of descent to the RM Commandos of today.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2023, 07:56:08 PM by Baron von Wreckedoften »
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