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Offline kingsmt

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Jessup's Loyalists
« on: October 04, 2022, 06:10:29 AM »
Carrying on with the neverending AWI Collection we have Jessup's Loyalists.

These were Mohawk Valley Loyalists who fled to Canada when the Valley turned Whig.
They accompanied Burgoyne on his expedition and were cut to pieces at Bennington.

Offline vodkafan

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Re: Jessup's Loyalists
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2022, 08:03:52 AM »
Not knowing much about the AWI....what happened to all these Loyalists once America gained independence? Did they all grudgingly just accept and settle down, were there reprisals against them, did some go to Canada or other places?
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Offline has.been

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Re: Jessup's Loyalists
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2022, 08:25:43 AM »
Some of all of those.
Remember that the Napoleonic Wars still saw 'Americans' in the Peninsular

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https://militaryhistorynow.com/2020/10/07/the-royal-american-rifles-inside-the-5-60th-regiment-wellingtons-deadly-skirmishers-of-the-peninsular-war/

Though mainly Europeans (Germans & Swiss) they were raised in America.
Similarly I believe there were Loyalist (American) units in Canada.

I leave the experts to provide a fuller answer. ;)

Offline kingsmt

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Re: Jessup's Loyalists
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2022, 09:12:55 AM »
Vodka Fan,  The Loyalist from the Mohawk Valley generally went to Canada.
In fact, many were forced from their homes and had to escape to Canada while the War was just starting.
The Johnsons, the Brandts, the Butlers all had their home confiscated and Warrants issued for them.

Many ended up in Halifax, which is where the British ships took them after the War ended.
Some went to Europe, while more than a few went to the Caribbean.

A good amount stayed right where they were, while some moved to the Frontier.
The Frontier was a place where people didn't ask about your past!

Offline v_lazy_dragon

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Re: Jessup's Loyalists
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2022, 11:55:06 AM »
Lots of Loyalists settled in Canada.

What was Sunbury Co., Nova Scotia would turn into the province of New Brunswick following the resettlement of significant numbers of loyalists in the region - and their view that the Nova Scotia government wasn't as loyal as they would wish(!).

 I am currently sat in Saint John("The loyalist city") New Brunswick)2 blocks down from where Benedict Arnold was resettled, with most of the city getting a 'kick start' from DeLancy's regiment. Basically all the settlements in NB can trace their history back to loyalist refuges - St Andrews to Penobscot Bay/New York loyalists, St Martins to the Kings Orange Rangers, etc
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Offline CapnJim

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Re: Jessup's Loyalists
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2022, 03:27:40 PM »
Again, lovely figures.  Kinda a shame though they don't see the wargames table... you could have quite the battle! 8)
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Offline Gangleri

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Re: Jessup's Loyalists
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2022, 09:30:43 PM »
They look great, marching through the tall grass!  Very suitable for a late summer campaign like Saratoga.
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Offline Codsticker

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Re: Jessup's Loyalists
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2022, 10:05:27 PM »
Yeah, the basing is just fantastic. Do you use a flock box or a static grass applicator?

Offline kingsmt

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Re: Jessup's Loyalists
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2022, 10:08:19 PM »
Cod,  I use a converted fly swatter that I got from Ebay for 20 bucks.
It about 15 years old and still work a charm.

Offline vtsaogames

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Re: Jessup's Loyalists
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2022, 10:34:07 AM »
Not knowing much about the AWI....what happened to all these Loyalists once America gained independence? Did they all grudgingly just accept and settle down, were there reprisals against them, did some go to Canada or other places?

Some 70,000 emigrated after the war. A colonel of a New Jersey loyalist regiment was lynched from a tree in his own yard when he tried to go home after the war. A violation of the peace treaty, it provided an excuse for the British to keep their northwest fort garrisons in place, another in a long list of treaty violations by both sides that would continue up to the War of 1812.

During the war Whigs and Tories had murdered each other in a savage civil war.
And the glorious general led the advance
With a glorious swish of his sword and his lance
And a glorious clank of his tin-plated pants. - Dr. Seuss


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