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Author Topic: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th C Swiss Church - 25/2/2024 finished picture  (Read 6610 times)

Offline Mick_in_Switzerland

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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2023, 03:56:50 PM »
I have made a mock-up of the church using white cardboard and masking tape.
I have drawn on the windows and doors with a black Sharpie pen. The roof is corrugated card left over from my Hue Citadel build.

This is my first step to get the size and shape of the buildings. The figures are Perry 28mm.
I am fairly happy with the wall heights and overall building size.

I will recheck this when the plasticard roof sheets arrive as it will be easiest if I match the roof to the sheet width.



The height of the windows is going to be quite important to make it look right. The side windows on both buildings need to be lower.
Again I will have to check if the Shifting Lands windows work - if not I have to scratch build some or find an STL that I can adjust and print.



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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church 4th Feb
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2023, 04:05:39 PM »
Good & fast start there.

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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church 4th Feb
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2023, 04:06:22 PM »
Thank-you

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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church 4th Feb
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2023, 05:31:28 PM »
Whoa, that was fast! This will look good  :-*

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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church 4th Feb
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2023, 03:30:14 PM »
This afternoon, I got my Proxxon Thermocut 230E out of its box and reassembled it.

I decided to build the walls and both buildings quite quickly so that I could check out the ideas.
I used an old piece of XPS foam and some corrugated cardboard.
It was also good to practice with the cutter again.
Everything was put together with hot melt glue.
This is the result after about three and a half hours.

The outer defensive walls are 10mm thick and 55mm high with tiled tops.
The inner ramparts 20mm thick and 30mm high to work with 28mm crossbowmen and hand gunners.

Thee gate house is 90mm wide 110mm deep and 100m high.
The doorway is big enough for a horse and cart.

The church is 140mm wide 170mm deep and 160m high.  I might reduce the height - what do you think?
The church tower is 45mm square and 310mm high. Here again, I might reduce the height.

This will all get remade very carefully when I have the roof tiles and windows.


« Last Edit: February 05, 2023, 04:49:41 PM by Mick_in_Switzerland »

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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church - update 5th Feb
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2023, 03:39:56 PM »
Looking good  :)
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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church - update 5th Feb
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2023, 03:41:19 PM »
Excellent progress.
The church height looks fine in your photo. Unless it overpowers the tower I would leave it at 160mm.

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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church - update 5th Feb
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2023, 04:08:07 PM »
I think the church will look better when I have the "bonnet roof" with a 45 degree pitch for the upper part and 35 degrees for the lowest quarter.
I think this will make it look Swiss.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2023, 04:14:52 PM by Mick_in_Switzerland »

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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church - update 5th Feb
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2023, 04:39:49 PM »
Gosh that already looks lovely - excellent progress.

I had better get cracking...

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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church - update 5th Feb
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2023, 05:49:12 PM »
Oh wow, that looks fine already!  :-*

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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church - update 5th Feb
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2023, 05:53:44 PM »
Progress will slow down a lot soon.
I will go to Taiwan from 10th to 18th February, so I won't be doing a lot for about two weeks.
I may have a play with textures this week and hopefully the windows and roof tiles will arrive.

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Re: BSC2023 Mick in Switzerland's 15th Century Swiss Church - update 5th Feb
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2023, 05:35:40 PM »
Yesterday I experimented with adding textures to the prototype walls. Note this is not the final build.

The grey wall and rampart are XPS which have been textured with Green Stuff World texture rollers.
The rampart is done with the 28mm flagstone and the walls are done with 28mm cobblestones.
Note that the texture works best on smooth (hotwire cut) surfaces but badly on the sawn sheet upper wall. 

The white wall front was textured with the cobblestones roller and then rendered using artist's coarse sand texture medium.
I painted the stones grey and used diluted Vallejo Xpress black as a black wash.

I am away on a business trip from Friday for a week, so it will be a while until the next update.

« Last Edit: February 08, 2023, 10:13:51 PM by Mick_in_Switzerland »

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Here is a quick update before my trip to Taiwan.

The plasticard roof tile sheets from Green Stuff World have arrived and are very good.
https://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/textured-sheets/157-abs-plasticard-roof-tiles-textured-sheet-a4.html

The Shifting Lands church window frames have also arrived but they look too small in comparison with my prototype church.
https://shop.shiftinglands.com/windows/129-church-basic-window-set.html

I have bought a new fence for my Proxxon - this has only been launched in the past few weeks.
It arrived yesterday and it looks like it will be much better than the Lego brick fence I have now.
English Link
https://www.proxxon.com/en/micromot/27078.php

Lots to play with when I get back.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2023, 01:06:25 PM by Mick_in_Switzerland »

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I have bought a new fence for my Proxxon - this has only been launched in the past few weeks.
It arrived yesterday and it looks like it will be much better than the Lego brick fence I have now.
English Link
https://www.proxxon.com/en/micromot/27078.php

Lots to play with when I get back.

That new Proxxon fence looks sweet, might have to get me one, if I can find a Canadian supplier

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I am back after my Taiwan trip.
Last week I experimented with the new fence for the Proxxon and made all of the compound walls and the church tower.
The pieces were skinned and then textured with rollers.

The MDF windows from Shifting Lands look far too small of this size of model so I found an STL of a Romanesque Window and printed a set of windows.

This was a task in itself as it is a long time since I last used the 3D printer and the first two sets failed.
I thought about it and made a new layout with the windows at 45 degrees to the bed but starting at the outside edges.
This layout worked.


I found the best way to fit the windows was to hold a scalpel vertically and cut in the foam using the window as a template.
This was much better than using the hot wire cutter.
Yesterday, I made the church roof and the gatehouse. The roofs have a double pitch.
First I made a roof with a shallow 30 degree pitch and then cut it off parallel to the floor.
Then I made a 60 degree triangle and glued it on top.
Both roofs were covered with plasticard rooftile from Greenstuff World.

The outer walls were capped with corrugated card as this looked much better than the plasticard.
I added magnets to the wall corners so that they snap in place and hold together.



In German they talk about a building completing the "raw build" and I would say that that is where this is up to.
There is still a lot to do.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2023, 02:11:55 PM by Mick_in_Switzerland »

 

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