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Author Topic: Saitic Egyptian armies?  (Read 3475 times)

Offline Easy E

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Re: Saitic Egyptian armies?
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2023, 04:00:52 PM »
Saitic is not the Last Dynasty of Egypt IIRC. 

There was also a short-lived Mendes Dynasty that defended/rebelled against Persian rule in the Nile Delta.  They also used Greek Mercs/Allies.

However, I am not an expert by any means.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2023, 04:04:31 PM by Easy E »
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Offline Pattus Magnus

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Re: Saitic Egyptian armies?
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2023, 05:02:39 PM »
 I’m pretty sure that’s correct. There was a period of about 80 years ( about 420-340 BCE, give or take a few years on either end), where the Persian empire lost control of Egypt and the Mendes dynasty ruled. The Persians reconquered it a few years before Alexander went rampaging east. Alexander then became pharaoh, and then the whole successor thing erupted when he died. Cue Ptolemy and his increasingly inbred descendants.

Greek/Carian mercenaries would have been in the Egyptian armies in the Saite and Mendes dynasties, and could easily have been part of garrisons under the Persians.

Speaking of garrison, I don’t know how active they were in field campaigns, but another interesting unit to model in Saite -Persian occupation - (maybe Mendes Egyptian armies would be the Jewish mercenaries at Elephantine. They were there to secure the Nile against incursions from the south and seem to have been taken into service with each regime that controlled Egypt. I haven’t read anything about how they were equipped, though. Researching that could turn into a rabbit hole…  Herodotus doesn’t mention them, but they were definitely there during his tour. I don’t think that necessarily means Herodotus didn’t visit Elephantine in person; it could also be that the Jewish troops were equipped pretty much the same as other ‘native’ soldiers and didn’t stand out as unusual (they had already been there a long time at that point). That’s not as fun to model as a wargame unit though.  :?
« Last Edit: September 20, 2023, 05:13:42 PM by Pattus Magnus »

Offline MartinD

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Re: Saitic Egyptian armies?
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2023, 08:29:32 PM »
Interesting.
I've been toying with the idea of creating an Egyptian army for this era as opponents for my upcoming Assyrians.

Very little specific stuff out there - Footsore and Eureka do spearmen/melee troops but are very expensive as an army option (and 5 poses between them)

I was going to use Irregular Blenmye cavalry for Nubian horse. Then... just as many Kushites and nubians as I can find. I have the Foundry ones painted but I'll need more

Then I lost interest until I seen the Red Copper NKE and Nubians and I thought they might do the trick if painted all as Nubians/Kushites. Ymmv though.

Offline Rochejaquelein

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Re: Saitic Egyptian armies?
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2023, 10:45:00 PM »
If you're looking for Archaic Greek hoplites for Saitic Egyptian armies, Blitzkrieg Miniatures released a range of ancient Lydians (Lydia also provided mercenaries via King Gyges)
https://www.blitzkriegminiatures.com/tanks/Lydian-Empire-c147588299

Offline sgzleada71

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Re: Saitic Egyptian armies?
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2023, 05:03:28 AM »
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