Guards of Traitor's Toll- Anyone read the rules/tried the game?

[Burgundavia]

@Burgundavia- that's too bad. Does the rulebook at least show the sides of the dice so you could proxy a regular D6 (ie, 1=result X, 2= result Y, etc.)? I'm surprised they wouldn't put the cards as a sheet in the back of the pdf. Maybe it's something you could reach out to the designer/company about, as it seems reasonable that if you buy the rulebook they should give you the stuff you need to play.

The biggest issue is the lack of cards. Those are not included in the PDF, nor is there a timeframe to release them (I asked on the official FB group). Considering getting a refund of my rule purchase, to be honest.

[Dean]

Feel the need to step in here.  The dice are directional, so trying to replace them with a standard D6 simply won’t work I’m afraid.

Oh and looking at the Grey for Now website, the other two games 0200 hours, and Test of Honour, they do sell card and dice sets, so as it’s just at pre-release right now, I imagine that will be there later.

Just saying.

[Burgundavia]

Oh and looking at the Grey for Now website, the other two games 0200 hours, and Test of Honour, they do sell card and dice sets, so as it’s just at pre-release right now, I imagine that will be there later.

Just saying.

Right, but why release the rules for purchase when you can't actually play?

[Ultravanillasmurf]

The Dice are available from Northstar
https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=19056

Of course exotic Dice and Cards are to protect their IP.

[anevilgiraffe]

The Dice are available from Northstar
https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=19056

Of course exotic Dice and Cards are to protect their IP.

on pre order at Northstar... so doesn't help the original issue of the game not having the required dice to play it...

[ChaosChild]

on pre order at Northstar... so doesn't help the original issue of the game not having the required dice to play it...

Well, the game hasn't released yet so I'm not sure quite what you expect?

[fred]

But the PDF of the rules is available now.

Which doesn’t seem to be much use without these other components

[Burgundavia]

Well, the game hasn't released yet so I'm not sure quite what you expect?

When most games release the rules for a cost, you can actually play the game right then and there. Not so much with these ones.

I play Gaslands all the time. It requires both special dice and templates. But both were available with the rules as purchased (in the case of the templates you could print them off, the dice you could proxy).

[ChaosChild]

But you bought the rules on pre-release. And these requirements for the dice and cards were very clear before you bought the rules. You chose to jump in early, the other components will be available when the game is actually released.

[Burgundavia]

But you bought the rules on pre-release. And these requirements for the dice and cards were very clear before you bought the rules. You chose to jump in early, the other components will be available when the game is actually released.

Then tell us when the PDFs of the cards will be available. It's a really simple thing. Overall, deeply soured on this game because of basic communications failures (and I love the genre and concept)

[bluewillow]

Looking forward to them, even picked up some eBay pieces for characters, plus a 3d pack of terrain pieces.

Lined up for the release, I will be adding it to French Wargame Holidays evening games.

Cheers
Matt

[Dentatus]

Honestly, I avoid all games with special dice like the plague...well, except Saga, which you technically don't need and can easily proxy if you don't want to buy the special command dice. But for dice needed to do the basic movement, shooting, combat, etc., I say no way. To me it seems like nothing more than a money grab.

My friend ran the Fallout official game for us once and we all roundly panned it. We spent every turn looking up what each of the stupid symbols mean. I felt bad since he'd obviously spent a lot of money on it all. But hey, he can use the figs for post-apoc games using other rules... 

Just my opinion...

Mike Demana

I've heard it said that if after the session, the players stand around talking about the rules, it's a bad game. If you talk about the game, it's a good set of rules. 

Exceptions and exaggeration aside, we've found that to be accurate.

[Ultravanillasmurf]

I got my copy from North Star (with the heavy Elf Infantry release).
My first problem is the number of figures you need to play (even though it is a skirmish game).
You need 20 civilians (there are sufficient supplied in the box) plus your guards.
That is about the same as 500 points in Baron's War.
That set has some plastic market stalls (alternative build of the barricades) that might be of use.

I have not started building any of the figures. Deciding on what to build for the guards is complicated by the stats and points being on the cards, so it seems like a faff to begin

One minor irritant with the figures,  I wish they had not been made with puddle bases, they would look really cool on Renedra cobbled bases

[zemjw]

I've been following the articles in the last few Wargames Illustrated, but it was Mad Lord's Snapcase's plan to set his game in Ankh Morpork that pushed me into the abyss - https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=149060.0

Well, almost. The local show is on next Saturday, so it's on my to-buy list for that.

I backed the Midlam City Guard KS in 2022, so I at least have one watch painted up. I am short of civilans, but the ones in the box do look nice.

Fingers are crossed, and at least it's giving me the opportunity to fill in some gaps in my collection.

[SteveBurt]

The supplied bases work fine if you just fill level with the lip and then paint on some stones. No need for any fancy bases