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Offline Gunbird

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Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« on: 03 May 2025, 11:48:49 PM »
For a small in between project (sure, uhuh, let's call it that) I'm looking for photo's or drawings or hobby examples of a small coastal fort in the tropics. I'll be using it for 15mm and looking for something thats fits 4-6 guns and has a footprint of about max 20x20cm once finished.

Partially into the sea would be nice, or a harbour end one. It's not my usually area of expertise so I'm not sure where and how to search for pics of these.

So....anyone?
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Offline carlos marighela

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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #1 on: 04 May 2025, 02:54:54 AM »
Yup. In fact I have a whole big tome devoted to the fortifications in Salvador da Bahia in Brazil.

I'd suggest looking at those for the following reasons:

Most are a manageable size.

Most are in very good states of preservation and reflect their 18th/ 19th C look (Forte Sant Antonio had a lighthouse structure added)

They pretty much all abut the sea or jut out into it.

Most date from the 17thC but took their current form in the 18th or early 19thC.

They tend to be relatively simple shapes but are none the less very attractive.

There are heaps of photos available on-line. Here's an example of a good example Forte Santa Maria. Spent a lot of time swimming in the adjoining cove, it's a popular beach and it's actually wedged between two forts.

https://whichmuseum.com/museum/forte-de-santa-maria-salvador-23064

I'd suggest looking at the following ones in addition.

Forte de Nossa Senhora de Montserrat (my favourite) it's got a very elegant but simple hexagonal shape. really gorgeous setting too.

Forte de Santo Antônio da Barra. The grandest of the lot, the maritime museum is located inside. Absent the lighthouse, it's pretty much as it was in the 18thC. You'll probably get more results if you google Farol da Barra, as most people know it by the lighthouse.

Forte de São Diogo is an interesting example as it's an irregular hemipsherical shape. It was designed as the counterpart to Forte Santa Maria and overlooks it.

Salvador also has a fairly unusual  circular fort set in the bay, Forte São  Marcelo. The current annular shape dates to the 18thC.

Over on Itaparica Island, across the bay, you have Forte de São Lourenço. This one is beautiful and is more of the traditional star shape, you would see elsewhere. If you need further inspiration to research it in person, it's right near one of my favourite restaurants and the other best icecreamery in the state (the one at Montserrat is a quick bus ride to the best one in Ribeira). Our secret mind, few tourists visit that part of Itaparica.

There are a number of other forts set inland but these probably best meet your criteria. There are a heap more spread across Brazil, with concentrations in the South in Santa Catarina and also around Recife and Olinda. Rio has a large number of extant forts but most were remodelled in the late 19thC.

By the by, not a fort but a truly photogenic set of ruins of a fortified mansion, the Castelo de Garcia d'Ávila that dates back to the 16th C can be found a bit up the coast towards Praia do Forte. Might give you some further inspiration.

https://fgd.org.br/

« Last Edit: 04 May 2025, 02:57:07 AM by carlos marighela »
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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #2 on: 04 May 2025, 10:12:52 AM »
Thx Carlos, Forte de Santa Maria, Salvador is actually perfect for what I have in mind. The right size, compact, at sea :)

Now to go hunt for dimensions, drawings etc.

Pity it is not taken care of very well? (according to Wiki anyway)


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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #3 on: 04 May 2025, 10:40:50 AM »
It was for a long time, when it was overseen by the army.

Good choice, it's roughly where the Dutch landed in 1625 during their short sojourn. It's also a stone's throw from where Carlos met Mrs Carlos 20 years ago. :)

I dug out my copy of As Fortificações Portuguesas De Salvador and found a plan of Forte Santa Maria. Hope it helps
« Last Edit: 04 May 2025, 10:45:14 AM by carlos marighela »

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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #4 on: 04 May 2025, 10:43:56 AM »
Here's another slightly clearer plan from the plaque outside the fort itself.

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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #5 on: 04 May 2025, 03:29:30 PM »
Perfect, thx again :)

Offline Pan Marek

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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #6 on: 05 May 2025, 05:17:44 PM »
This is fantastic material.   Fort Santa Maria has essentially the same design as Fort Matanzas, just south of St. Augustine.   Looks like it was a common type.

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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #7 on: 05 May 2025, 08:21:16 PM »
This is fantastic material.   Fort Santa Maria has essentially the same design as Fort Matanzas, just south of St. Augustine.   Looks like it was a common type.

Ooh, that is even more compact, love it!

Offline Waffles_vs_Tacos

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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #8 on: 06 May 2025, 09:32:04 AM »
The Spanish Fort at Saint Augustine is fairly small, as forts go.

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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #9 on: 06 May 2025, 11:03:19 AM »
The Spanish Fort at Saint Augustine is fairly small, as forts go.

And that makes it perfect for what I have planned :)

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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #10 on: 08 May 2025, 03:45:43 PM »
And this is enough data to keep me busy for a while :)

https://etc.usf.edu/clippix/search?q=Survey+of+Fort+Matanzas

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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #11 on: 08 May 2025, 10:37:21 PM »
I can see the merits of that one. What it lacks in elegance it makes up for in simplicity and a reduction in size.

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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #12 on: 08 May 2025, 10:47:03 PM »
Yeah, this one has Function over Form written over it in fat black sharpie. Just what I need :)

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Re: Looking for a small fort in the tropics - photos
« Reply #13 on: 08 May 2025, 10:53:40 PM »
My only concern would be whether it attracts a 10% tarriff.  lol

 

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