[KICKSTARTER] Por fin argentinos para Malvinas

[italwars]

As i had , since years , initiated posts about 1982 Falkands Conflict (Land battles and forces) and always  appreciated some interesting answers to my querries , i think it could , maybe, useful, to point out a new KS campaign (no personal connection with the owner ) that i just discovered
…for now just  Argentine soldiers  apparently very well researched and  ready to print in 1/72 but the files could, obviously, be resized in every scale..i suppose that, if succesfull, the owner who is open to suggestions could also produce, in the future, British troops..Argentine minis are well needed but i ll ask him also if he could design some Paras  or even Royals with the difficult to find new para or the rare dove helmet …the printed minis seem compatible  , in design and size , with the old beautiful Matchbox NATO paratroopers of which i only have around 200 minis :-)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rezpla/soldiers-of-the-falklands-war-part-1-argentine-forces/description

[carlos marighela]

'Very nice! Great to see a range that captures the differences between the marines and the army. the locals could do with knit caps/beanies as headwear.

[italwars]

Not only locals but also Argentine soldiers could wear beanie caps …there is that famous video of “equipo de combate Guemes “ , 25 RI , just returning from San Carlos landing beach . no one of them, even if still in total battle order,  has any M1 helmet….by the way some  other unique details could be detected  in the video such as “bandolier pouches” and a pair of captured items from the April invasion such as a Lee Enfield ( for sniping use ?) probably borrowed from the FIDF armory and even what looks like a RM jumper , possibly, recovered in Moody Brook.


From sources included in Argentine published books there is mention of 25 th Infantry  regiment (more or less special/commando trained) members fighting in first line trenches of Darwin and easily recognizable, by and from other Argentine soldiers,  cause they wore green berets or beanie/wool hats instead of helmets …which is hard to believe , especially as concern berets, but , as said , was carefully described in a pair of sources  that i ve read

https://youtu.be/1PAHAN6KrJg?feature=shared

[carlos marighela]

Well the locals need them to more closely align with their prototype: Benny Hawkins.

Would be nice to see an alternative opposition, I'd love to see Chilean troops of the period. Chile and Argentina were hours away from a major war in 1978, one of the great what-ifs. It even inspired one of my favourite films (Mi mejor enimigo). The Chilean army and marines even have some exotic kit, like SIG-510s and HK33s respectively. Being, in part Patagonia focussed (the plan also involved an Argentine invasion across the passes to Santiago) you could even reuse the sheep from this release.

[italwars]

Yes it could be an enjoyable  “what if” scenario ..must confess that the Chileans didn get all my sympathy cause their behavior towards their  Argentine neighbors had been disloyal  and unnatural at best..
What I cannot understand is why Gen. Galtieri was so afraid of supposed to be threats from their eastern border in such way as  to immobilize their best divisions (mountain ones, most trained ones) and instead send the poor guys from Corrientes to fight in a quasi artic milieu ..a real obsession for a war with Chile that was  unlikely  to happen ..
After all , if I remenber correctly, a quick travel to Buenos Aires by the Polish  Pope quickly solved the issue with a few talks

[carlos marighela]

Not sure how Chile can be considered disloyal. There was no love lost between the two countries and apart from a border the only thing they had in common was both being ruled by a murderous military dictatorship.

There was a brief period of cooperation under Operation Condor, where they would arrest easch other's dissdents but you have to recognise that they were both separate and highly nationalistic regimes run by narcissistic numpties. Pinochet was a few grades smarter than Galtieri or rather not as stupid. People make far too much of Operation Condor in the broader context anyway, it was a fairly brief period of relative amity and they soon fell out again.

Chile acted the way it did because it wanted security guarantees of some sort and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Pope's mediation didn't actually resolve the matter, it was still a case of mutual hostilty through to around the 1984 mark and only then because the new Argentine government under Alfonsin recognised the idiocy of another pointless and likely losing war and was willing to settle. They couldn't afford a war anyway, the Argentine economy was in the toilet in the early 1980s, a rinse and repeat feature of the place.

By the by, a defining aspect of the Chileans is that they see themselves as a people apart from their neighbours in many ways. Relative prosperity is the benchmark here.

What I can say is  that I've eaten better parilla in Santiago than Buenos Aires but on the whole i'd prefer a decent Argentine Malbec to most drops from their Andean neighbour.  Of course neither understands the art of barbequed meat like a Brazilian and I'd prefer even the cheapest Brazilian pilsen to the beer of the two worst beer producing countries on the continent. If anyone ever offers you Quilmes or Cristal, treat it as a death threat.

[robh]

Really nice set of figures but the Kickstarter is dreadful, although it will likely fund (maybe) there is no way it is going to reach the 13k euros stretch goal, probably end up a long, long way short. Yet they already have the renders for those figures so have done the work. WTF is the purpose of the stretch goals?

They should have researched how to set up and run a niche Kickstarter as deeply as they did the uniforms & equipment of the troops being produced (which are great).

Sad.

[bluewillow]

Really excited to see these, I have joined (not that I need another project). It would be great to see it reach the lofty goal but I suspect will fall short. A longer time period would help it I think. 4 weeks is too short.

Also shared it on the 20mm forums on Facebook and the Wargamers Forum

Cheers
Matt

[italwars]

Anyway, i guess that, even if the KS campaign wil not reach is goal,.as we already can see, not juts renders  but actual  picts of printed and painted miniatures, the owner will probably put those same sets on sale. His FB page, that im not able to totally access as i do not use FB, shows also some very nice picts of British Paras ecc with Milan teams and other assets..Probably the designer loves the idea of a Falklands Conflict project at that scale.

The AA guns are also very useful ..less the FN MAG on sustained fire role..probably a lying Light Machine gunner would have been also useful. The "FAL pesado", a unique weapon , even if almost undistinguishable at that scale, is another nice touch

[italwars]

Found even another source for Argentine Infantry and Commandos STL files..and probably ready to print in 1/72/20mm...It seems that those Argies are, suddenly,  becoming fashionable :-)

https://shop.enfilade-figures.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=107_111